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WrathNail

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Nightwing
« on: October 19, 2010, 03:25:37 am »
So a nightwing shows up out of nowhere and one-shots all four guard dogs I placed around the farm (which is outside my fortress), then proceeds to chase my planters, Yakaty Sax-style.

Fortunately, one of them in a moment of brilliance decides to run back into my fortress, through the trap-covered front door. Naturally the beast follows. It effortlessly dodges the first three sets of serrated disks, gets its left wing clipped off by the fourth, then dodges that one into a cage trap.

So now I have a captured nightwing (think a vampire bat as big as a horse) sitting in the animal stockpile. What should I do with it?

Judging by its exploits (easily dodging masterwork bronze serrated disks, 3 per trap), I'm tempted to make it tameable and train it to be a war animal. But since it had its wing cut off, I'm afraid it won't be able to fly anymore, which would make it less useful.
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 04:15:22 am »
breed it, then create an army of vampires
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 04:24:50 am »
Quote from: Thiickshake on October 19, 2010, 04:15:22 am
breed it, then create an army of vampires

With what? He'd need a second nightwing of the opposite gender.
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 04:44:58 am »
Then clone in. Make as many copies as you want )
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 05:17:42 am »
Spoiler: raws (click to show/hide)

Can't breed, can't be tamed.
Too bad:
[EQUIPS]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [FLIER]
   [NOPAIN][NOBREATHE][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][NOEXERT][NOFEAR]
   [NO_DIZZINESS]
« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 05:19:18 am by Encased in burning magma »
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 06:52:58 am »
Then its perfect for your arena! You erm, have an arena right? I mean, you /are/ a dwarf, aren't you?
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 08:02:08 am »
Quote from: Encased in burning magma on October 19, 2010, 05:17:42 am
Spoiler: raws (click to show/hide)

Can't breed, can't be tamed.
Too bad:
[EQUIPS]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [FLIER]
   [NOPAIN][NOBREATHE][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][NOEXERT][NOFEAR]
   [NO_DIZZINESS]

I made a copy of the region for some experimenting.

First thing I did was add [PET] and [TRAINABLE] to the raws, so I could tame it. That worked, and I found I can either train it as a hunting or war animal.

Then I made my hunter into a one-man squad, assigned him his new pet and took it for a walk. To my surprise it somehow it still manages to fly, even without its left wing. Took it into the caves where I had the two of them slaughter some hungry heads and a jabberer. The nightwing performed pretty well.

Then a goblin ambush happened, so I tested him on them as well. Not so well damage-wise. The swordsman it was pitted against was unable to strike it, as it dodged every blow. But on the other hand it wasn't able to consistently puncture iron armor. What it did do was "latch on" to the goblin repeatedly, allowing the hunter to kill it unchallenged.

So, first result says nightwings are more effective against unarmored targets and only play a supportive role when up against at least iron armor. What I am interested in is its ability to [CAN_LEARN] and [EQUIP]. Further science is necessary!
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 08:20:38 am »
[CAN_LEARN] means it gets better with experience. [EQUIP] means it can use weapons. I think. I haven't done much messing with the raws.
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 12:06:53 pm »
Oooo great! Now your caged goblins will have a playmate :D
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 12:23:19 pm »
Quote from: Encased in burning magma on October 19, 2010, 05:17:42 am
Spoiler: raws (click to show/hide)

Can't breed, can't be tamed.
Too bad:
[EQUIPS]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [FLIER]
   [NOPAIN][NOBREATHE][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][NOEXERT][NOFEAR]
   [NO_DIZZINESS]

hey, look, now they can.
Spoiler: edit (click to show/hide)
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 12:27:05 pm »
Quote from: Akura on October 19, 2010, 08:20:38 am
[CAN_LEARN] means it gets better with experience. [EQUIP] means it can use weapons. I think. I haven't done much messing with the raws.

Yep.

If you add in [CAN_SPEAK], it will gain speech skill when sitting around idling in the meeting area if someone is nearby to talk to.

My war tigermen did it, anyway >.>

I don't know how to actually get them to equip stuff though. I guess it;s jsut somewhat random, if they happen by some armor or weapon they'll equip it, or more likely it'll be like the bug where trolls will take the socks of a dwarf they killed and beat other dwarves to death with them.
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2010, 01:01:46 pm »
Capture another of the opposite gender set them to breed and you'll having a fearless emotionless army of flying killing machines your hunter will be the only military you ever need.

Also train them as hunting animals so they get points in ambush.
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 11:01:42 pm »
Quote from: Zaik on October 19, 2010, 12:23:19 pm
Quote from: Encased in burning magma on October 19, 2010, 05:17:42 am
Spoiler: raws (click to show/hide)

Can't breed, can't be tamed.
Too bad:
[EQUIPS]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [FLIER]
   [NOPAIN][NOBREATHE][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][NOEXERT][NOFEAR]
   [NO_DIZZINESS]

hey, look, now they can.
Spoiler: edit (click to show/hide)
Still can't breed - needs male/female castes.
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Re: Nightwing
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 06:49:49 am »
Quote from: Zaerosz on October 19, 2010, 11:01:42 pm
Quote from: Zaik on October 19, 2010, 12:23:19 pm
Quote from: Encased in burning magma on October 19, 2010, 05:17:42 am
Spoiler: raws (click to show/hide)

Can't breed, can't be tamed.
Too bad:
[EQUIPS]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [CAN_LEARN]
   [FLIER]
   [NOPAIN][NOBREATHE][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][NOEXERT][NOFEAR]
   [NO_DIZZINESS]

hey, look, now they can.
Spoiler: edit (click to show/hide)
Still can't breed - needs male/female castes.

Any suggestion on how I might add that then? I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of another one of these beasties.
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