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Voting closed: October 22, 2010, 02:25:09 am

[Zathras]

You mean this?:

- Random vote on Janus, you know the drill.
- A fury of questions after the MOD (Ottofar) responds to him from the first question.  Let it be noted that not a single play has posted yet and he has questioned every player with random vote question, which isn't helpful.  Not many times does the random vote question win the game.  I think it's because he wants to seem like he's helping while staying on the higher ground of questioning.

The post to which this refers is this one:

Great! I have high hopes for these VM games. They're a lot of fun.

While I'm here,
Archangel, are you a philosophy professor with the University of Walamaloo? Just kidding... How do you think your being so far away will affect the progress of the game?
Pandar, so, what strategy this time?
ToonyMan, you are never town; you are always scum. Why shouldn't we just hang you now and be done with it?

That's it, that one post. Who else, other than you, does it find scummy?

[ToonyMan]

Nope, wrong quote.  Your first paragraph.

[Zathras]

Nope, wrong quote.  Your first paragraph.

Dude, is your quote button broken? But very well:

Wow. Lots of stuff. Good. I'll go through your points and give opinions, however before I do so I will point out that a) you failed to substantiate your previous statement: "You find every person in this game scummy", and b) you failed to point out where I'm "sooper-defensive".

That's my first paragraph. Who else does it find scummy?

Or this:

As I mentioned earlier, I generally toss questions to multiple people because I'm trying to get everyone talking and I need a read on four people, not one. And yes, I started a bit eagerly, but I had been jonesing for a game since PYS started, so I was happy to get the ball rolling.

Who else does it find scummy?

Or a different one? If so, please quote, instead of just pointing.

[Pandarsenic]

Zathras+Archangel is probably the team, but where's JanusTwoFace?

[Zathras]

Hmmm... suddenly silent, are we? He's probably out to the quote-button-repair shop.

I expect you to come back with an answer on that "who else is scummy" thing, if you can't, then you are a liar. And while you're at the shop, please also pick up explanations or opinions on these:

Other than that, what is your rationale for voting me? I'll try and summarise your points against me so far, let me know if I missed any:
- I am talkative, started the game eagerly, and indulged in silliness. These I grant.
- I am hypocritical because I use your (and Pandar's) own words right back at you (or him). Bullshit.
- I had a hunch on you. I did, but didn't vote you until you did something scummy.
- You say I'm tunneling on you, which I'm not and you know it. Patently untrue.
- I insist you substantiate your arguments. This is called scumhunting, dude.

Am I hypocritical for using your own words on you? Am I tunneling? Am I being anti-town or doing things that I've said are anti-town?

Unless you substantiate them, these are also lies, you lying scum.

(replies to Pandar and Archie are forthcoming; lots of interesting stuff there. Sorry 'bout the shop detour.)

[Zathras]

Hah! Hi Pandar. How auspicious of you to show up right now. Toony may need your help at the shop...

...do you have opinions on his post and my reply?

[ToonyMan]

Stop being incredibly obvscum Zathras.  it hurts

[Zathras]

Quote button not working yet? Go back to the shop, we'll wait

[Zathras]

Why are you screening Zathras by telling ToonyMan EVIDENCE OR DIE?

Why aren't you asking for evidence on people's votes? Do you not think that they should be substantiated with evidence? Why are you screening Toony by accusing those who want him to prove his statements? What is the term for defending by attacking the attacker? Yeah... chainsaw defence.

Toony strikes me as Townish but I wouldn't bet/vote on it because I can't read him very well.

Do you still think he's Townish?

Zathras, to answer the question I feel you desperately don't want me to ask, feels very, very scummy. I'm not going to indicate posts because Surreal Penguin Gunslinger is a pretty cool guy, eh acts on hunches and doesn't afraid of anything.

Cite your scumtells, please.

Zathras, What is your opinion on Janus?

Undecided as of yet. Need him to talk more and give opinions on recent events. So far he reads pretty town, but he may just be acting the part. That's pretty much my opinion on you (Arch) as well.

Zathras+Archangel is probably the team, but where's JanusTwoFace?

Interesting timing of yours. But I agree: where's JanusTwoface? Hey Janus, please weigh in. Detachment/lurking at this point would be very scummy.



I think Pandar has attempted to protect ToonyMan several times:
- First FoS'd me for voicing my hunch (nothing wrong with this, I expected to be questioned for it, but it starts a trend).
- Then going after Archangel with passion for his daring to ask Toony for evidence.
- Followed by "Toony strikes me as Townish", with no evidence or reasoning.
- And accusing Archangel of chainsaw defending me for insisting on requesting Toony's evidence, shamelessly committing a chainsaw defence of his own.
- Finally showing up in the nick of time, just as Toony was being most pressed for answers, with an argument-less, evidence-less claim of his suspicions, and trying to deflect attention elsewhere.

Pandar, straight question for you: Do you think Toony should provide evidence for his vote? Do you think he has done so yet?

You, Pandar, are also scum. Since you try that hard to defend Toony without regards for your own safety, I infer that he's the Godather and you the Mafioso, so you'd be willing to go down if necessary to avoid losing the game on day one again.

JanusTwoface, Archangel, your opinions on recent events are welcome and needed.

[Pandarsenic]

If you read most games I operate 90% on hunches. Which are at least 60%-85% or so correct, depending on how awake I am, whether people like Breadbocks are around, etc.

So you know what? Fuck it.

Zathras.

Bring it on, scumfucker. You can't use my own style of argument [A is defending Z therefore Z is the godfather] against me and expect me not to notice that all you're doing is saying "NO U"

[Zathras]

If you read most games I operate 90% on hunches. Which are at least 60%-85% or so correct, depending on how awake I am, whether people like Breadbocks are around, etc.

So you know what? Fuck it.
Zathras.

Bring it on, scumfucker. You can't use my own style of argument [A is defending Z therefore Z is the godfather] against me and expect me not to notice that all you're doing is saying "NO U"

Insightful and profound. Thank you. I notice you failed to a) refute my claims; b) answer my direct question; c) cite your scumtells; and d) give any argument whatsoever. Since this is so clearly a suicide post, I stand by my reasoning of you being a Mafioso taking a dive for your Godfather, but I'll let the others decide that.

But you've put me at L-1. Now is the perfect time for a scum (if there's one that's not you or Toony) to come in an hammer me. Go ahead. I dare you. I guarantee that my vengekill will hit scum.

[JanusTwoface]

I've been grading midterms or sleeping for the past 20 hours (for more of the first and less of the second than I'd like).  I think I've caught up now, if I missed anything let me know.  I'll be back in a few hours (after more grading ).

Spoiler: Wall of text, read it anyways (click to show/hide)

JanusTwoface, regarding my meta, I was also in BYOR4 and was town, which was my first real game with the regulars here, and gave me a nice welcome to the forums. You can get there directly through the middle item in my sig.

Haven't read through them yet.  Will (hopefully) do so.

Pandar, What are your thoughts on Janus? What about ToonyMan?

Toony, give us a clear, through explanation as to why you think Zathras is scum, or die.

The first question is far too open ended and thus not really helpful.  Give people something to actually answer.  The second is much better.

Bah -- hit post instead of preview. That post would still say the same things, but would look much prettier. Just picture it in your mind, please. So, Archangel, what's your take on Janus?

I'm not sure. I'll have to think about it.

You should always have an answer to your own questions.

God damn it I lost my post. You get the short version:

Archangel, why are you attempting to direct towards the two players who are not me, you, or Zathras? Why are you screening Zathras by telling ToonyMan EVIDENCE OR DIE?

Not sure what else I was going to put in and lost. Blargh.

Type your posts in some other program.  Save early save often.  Of course then it would mean that you couldn't use 'lost my post' as an excuse to lurk, which you do fairly often.

Zathras, to answer the question I feel you desperately don't want me to ask, feels very, very scummy. I'm not going to indicate posts because Surreal Penguin Gunslinger is a pretty cool guy, eh acts on hunches and doesn't afraid of anything.

More because you're lazy and lurky I'd say.

Toony, give us a clear, through explanation as to why you think Zathras is scum, or die.

Obvious chainsaw is obvious.

You (Pandarsenic) had three other posts between when Archangel said this and you responded to it.  Seems like you're just trying to get ammunition to push a lynch now.

... really long post with lots of links ...


Now hold on while I eat breakfast or else it'll get cold, hehe.

How do you expect anyone to respond to this?  You need a summary of what your attack actually is.

Nope, wrong quote.  Your first paragraph.

Pet peeve: Just quote it.  It's much much quicker for you to find it because you know what you're looking for and that way we know you aren't just pulling crap out of your ass.  Both you and Pandarsenic have a tendency to do this as scum (post without actually backing it up) and are doing it this game.  Yours here, Pandarsenic's I pointed out earlier.

Zathras+Archangel is probably the team, but where's JanusTwoFace?

Are you calling me out for lurking?  Because that'd be hilarious coming from you.  It's barely been 24 hours since I posted and I've been grading either grading midterms or sleeping for the last 20 hours.  It sucks.

JanusTwoface, Archangel, your opinions on recent events are welcome and needed.

Did I miss anything?  I have to finish grading, but I'll be back in a few hours.

If you read most games I operate 90% on hunches. Which are at least 60%-85% or so correct, depending on how awake I am, whether people like Breadbocks are around, etc.

So you know what? Fuck it.

Zathras.

This really likes like WIFOM.  You're either scum daring a townie to follow you into a trap (either Zathras is town and you get a free kill or Zathras is scum and you clear yourself tomorrow) or you're town daring the scum to hammer Zathras and reveal themselves.

Summary (read wall of text for details):
- Archangel hasn't been as helpful as I'd like
- Pandarsenic is using a lurking excuse he's used before as scum: lost post, didn't retype
- ToonyMan isn't backing up his accusations, seen him do this before as scum
- Pandarsenic looks like he's trying to push a lynch, first on Archangel, then on Zathras
- ToonyMan had a long spew of text that looked more helpful than it was
- It's the weekend, some people do things on weekends.
- Pandarsenic's most recent post seems WIFOMy to me.

Right now I think that Pandarsenic is the most scummy.  Not sure about his partner.  Either bussing Zathras or his partner is laying low (which could be either Archangel or to a lessor extent ToonyMan, both of whom are decently scummy on their own merits).

I'll be back in a few hours.

[Zathras]

Mod: votecount, please.

[Pandarsenic]

I will selfvote and shoot Zathras if I have to -.-

[Zathras]

Please do, but before you go, how about answering my direct question?

Pandar, straight question for you: Do you think Toony should provide evidence for his vote? Do you think he has done so yet?