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[Hyndis]

... No-one talking about how to weaponize this yet? I'm disappointed in you Bay12.

Still it's interesting to know this can happen- I'd always assumed there wasn't any air pressure.

Pfft, weaponized cave-ins are old tech.

Make a constructed roof that isn't attached by anything. Support it from a constructed support in the middle. Building destroyer attacks the support, roof collapses in on them. Easy!

[bdunwithat]

sure, weaponizing cave-ins are old, but weaponizing airpressure is the wave of the future!

anyone done any !!SCIENCE!! to see how it really works/if its really the air pressure doing it?

[Hyndis]

Cave-ins create a big cloud of dust. Anything caught in the cloud of dust will be sucked into the center of the cave in. If that happens to be into a pit, then they end up in the pit.

Instead of the ceiling falling in, you can instead build a floor and link it to the ceiling with a support. Around the flood build a bunch of grates which don't provide any structural support but will allow things to walk over it. Should the support be taken out, either by a building destroyer or a lever, the floor, everything on the floor, and everything nearby caught in the dust will be sucked into the pit. You can build that floor over magma, water, or just a 20Z level fall.

Only problem with this sort of setup is that its a one-shot deal, and rebuilding the trap will take some time.

[Eric Blank]

... No-one talking about how to weaponize this yet? I'm disappointed in you Bay12.

Still it's interesting to know this can happen- I'd always assumed there wasn't any air pressure.

Pfft, weaponized cave-ins are old tech.

Make a constructed roof that isn't attached by anything. Support it from a constructed support in the middle. Building destroyer attacks the support, roof collapses in on them. Easy!

false; building destroyers of any sort no longer attack supports. Pretty sure it came in 31.01.

[krenshala]

Cave-ins create a big cloud of dust. Anything caught in the cloud of dust will be sucked into the center of the cave in. If that happens to be into a pit, then they end up in the pit.

Instead of the ceiling falling in, you can instead build a floor and link it to the ceiling with a support. Around the flood build a bunch of grates which don't provide any structural support but will allow things to walk over it. Should the support be taken out, either by a building destroyer or a lever, the floor, everything on the floor, and everything nearby caught in the dust will be sucked into the pit. You can build that floor over magma, water, or just a 20Z level fall.

Only problem with this sort of setup is that its a one-shot deal, and rebuilding the trap will take some time.

Shouldn't be too difficult if you plan ahead and have a retracted bridge that leads out to the support position when extended.  Just flip the lever, walk out onto the now extended bridge and start (re)building the support and floor area.  Right?  (Caution: noob proposing high-end architectural engineering ... use at own risk. )

[edit] durn typo

[Lost Requiem]

Nah. I prefer two things: Real combat (dwarves run out and flay the enemy with various melee weapons) and very unusual punishment. In this case, I plan on removing the invaders' floor privileges.

[lolghurt]

Cave-ins create a big cloud of dust. Anything caught in the cloud of dust will be sucked into the center of the cave in. If that happens to be into a pit, then they end up in the pit.

Instead of the ceiling falling in, you can instead build a floor and link it to the ceiling with a support. Around the flood build a bunch of grates which don't provide any structural support but will allow things to walk over it. Should the support be taken out, either by a building destroyer or a lever, the floor, everything on the floor, and everything nearby caught in the dust will be sucked into the pit. You can build that floor over magma, water, or just a 20Z level fall.

Only problem with this sort of setup is that its a one-shot deal, and rebuilding the trap will take some time.

Shouldn't be too difficult if you plan ahead and have a retracted bridge that leads out to the support position when extended.  Just flip the level, walk out onto the now extended bridge and start (re)building the support and floor area.  Right?  (Caution: noob proposing high-end architectural engineering ... use at own risk. )

doesn't work, as bridges do not support anything, and I'm pretty sure you need to have some sort of floor tile to place the support.

[krenshala]

darn.  i was hoping the ceiling tile would be enough for the support, and would then allow you to place a new (attached) floor tile to work everything else off of.

[lolghurt]

darn.  i was hoping the ceiling tile would be enough for the support, and would then allow you to place a new (attached) floor tile to work everything else off of.

I dunno. It will probably complain about "no floor"
Also I didn't know you could walk onto tiles with supports on them.

[NewSheoth]

Also I didn't know you could walk onto tiles with supports on them.

Dwarves linking up supports to levers stand on the supports just fine in my forts.

[nordak]

it works... I set several caged two-humped camels and a caged monkey above a cave-in and sure enough they were sucked in as their cages opened....  lever was connected to the support and cages...

[Eagle_eye]

Cave-ins create a big cloud of dust. Anything caught in the cloud of dust will be sucked into the center of the cave in. If that happens to be into a pit, then they end up in the pit.

Instead of the ceiling falling in, you can instead build a floor and link it to the ceiling with a support. Around the flood build a bunch of grates which don't provide any structural support but will allow things to walk over it. Should the support be taken out, either by a building destroyer or a lever, the floor, everything on the floor, and everything nearby caught in the dust will be sucked into the pit. You can build that floor over magma, water, or just a 20Z level fall.

Only problem with this sort of setup is that its a one-shot deal, and rebuilding the trap will take some time.

Shouldn't be too difficult if you plan ahead and have a retracted bridge that leads out to the support position when extended.  Just flip the level, walk out onto the now extended bridge and start (re)building the support and floor area.  Right?  (Caution: noob proposing high-end architectural engineering ... use at own risk. )

doesn't work, as bridges do not support anything, and I'm pretty sure you need to have some sort of floor tile to place the support.

actually, you can cause a cave in pretty easily by linking a bridge to another bridge, the latter unsupported, then switch the first up. I don't know if it can hurt anyone not on the bridge tho...