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[KaguroDraven]

This is true, but they are still arrogant pricks, hell thats why the noldor started the damn war, they where arrogant pricks who got manipulated.

[BigJake]

Speaking of sci-fi, I just ran across this again and it's always worth another read.

[KaguroDraven]

I love it.

[Pandarsenic]

Found this a while ago from here:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreCthulhu

[BigJake]

As always, TVTropes has shit on lockdown.

[KaguroDraven]

I personily prefer this tropes page, which is incedently where I found the link at the beginning of the thread.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreWarriors

[BigJake]

"Man had decided to study war no more because they were very, very good at it"

edit: Just read The Road Not Taken by Harry Turtledove.  Highly recommended.

[Zangi]

http://www.davidbrin.com/upliftbooks.htm

I'd say give this stuff a try, a good sci-fi read.

[BigJake]

http://www.davidbrin.com/upliftbooks.htm

I'd say give this stuff a try, a good sci-fi read.

Not that it has anything to do with the writing, but that website is hideous.

[Zangi]

http://www.davidbrin.com/upliftbooks.htm

I'd say give this stuff a try, a good sci-fi read.

Not that it has anything to do with the writing, but that website is hideous.

Don't worry, its my first time seeing it too.  You are not alone.

[ChairmanPoo]

Does anyone else find this to be a wankfest? IMO all these starshiptrooperesque sci-fi stories try to appeal to chauvinistic cords present in all of us, and deep down they are no different from old cowboy vs indians movies.

[scriver]

Does anyone else find this to be a wankfest? IMO all these starshiptrooperesque sci-fi stories try to appeal to chauvinistic cords present in all of us, and deep down they are no different from old cowboy vs indians movies.

I'm sure I would agree with you, but unfortunately I have no idea what you are referring to?

[BigJake]

Does anyone else find this to be a wankfest? IMO all these starshiptrooperesque sci-fi stories try to appeal to chauvinistic cords present in all of us, and deep down they are no different from old cowboy vs indians movies.

Which would be why some of us seek out the science fiction that bucks that trend.

[Zangi]

Does anyone else find this to be a wankfest? IMO all these starshiptrooperesque sci-fi stories try to appeal to chauvinistic cords present in all of us, and deep down they are no different from old cowboy vs indians movies.

Which would be why some of us seek out the science fiction that bucks that trend.

With this in light, whats the use of complaining?  Just link tvtropes and let others connect the dots destroy their productivity.

[amandak695]

That was my thoughts. And reading it it made an incredible amount of sense to be honest. Some of the facts about our race are out and out disturbing if you think about them, a few of which are pointed out in it. But it is still incredibly awesome, and makes me take pride in being human, fuck yeah!

I also think so.