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Author Topic: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?  (Read 10513 times)

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Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« on: October 06, 2010, 09:50:43 pm »

Does clothing have any real impact?  I'm kind of leaning towards trying "replace clothing"
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2010, 09:58:37 pm »

If you max out your soldier's armor, go with replace.  If you are like me and just give them a mail shirt, hat, leggings, and boot, you may as well have them wear it over since the clothing provides a very small benefit and doesn't really restrict movement.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 09:59:15 pm »

Actually, clothes do provide some protection. From what I've heard, dresses* provide the most coverage. Material matters, too. Normal cloth isn't great, leather and possibly silk are decent, and the special spoilerific stuff works best(but wears out like all clothes do). And you can assign clothes as part of the uniform.


*Even for guys. And you won't be saying his dress looks stupid if he's four feet tall, armored in full steel, carries a huge axe, and is charging your way screaming profanities and battle cries.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2010, 10:06:49 pm »

Yea, unless your uniform will actually replace those clothes (with cotton candy clothes or something?  I dunno) then you'll be better off keeping them clothed.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2010, 10:20:42 pm »

Who uses the cotton candy to make clothes, anyway?
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2010, 10:21:49 pm »

Actually, clothes do provide some protection. From what I've heard, dresses* provide the most coverage. Material matters, too. Normal cloth isn't great, leather and possibly silk are decent, and the special spoilerific stuff works best(but wears out like all clothes do). And you can assign clothes as part of the uniform.


*Even for guys. And you won't be saying his dress looks stupid if he's four feet tall, armored in full steel, carries a huge axe, and is charging your way screaming profanities and battle cries.

Can a dwarf wearing a dress wear plate greaves over it? That seems like it would be -very- uncomfortable.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 10:22:38 pm »

Actually, clothes do provide some protection. From what I've heard, dresses* provide the most coverage. Material matters, too. Normal cloth isn't great, leather and possibly silk are decent, and the special spoilerific stuff works best(but wears out like all clothes do). And you can assign clothes as part of the uniform.


*Even for guys. And you won't be saying his dress looks stupid if he's four feet tall, armored in full steel, carries a huge axe, and is charging your way screaming profanities and battle cries.

Can a dwarf wearing a dress wear plate greaves over it? That seems like it would be -very- uncomfortable.
The dress would act as a padding for the armor.
Unless said dress is one of those ultra-tight "fashion" dresses.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 10:25:21 pm »

What I mean is, you have a dress (two legs in one connected cloth tube) worn under plate pants (two legs in two separate tubes). Something would bunch up pretty awful or you'd have to cut holes in your dress.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 10:29:20 pm »

What I mean is, you have a dress (two legs in one connected cloth tube) worn under plate pants (two legs in two separate tubes). Something would bunch up pretty awful or you'd have to cut holes in your dress.
I don't think guys wear dresses anyways.
They wear trousers.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 10:30:55 pm »

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*Even for guys. And you won't be saying his dress looks stupid if he's four feet tall, armored in full steel, carries a huge axe, and is charging your way screaming profanities and battle cries.

Unless by binging up gender you mean males would find it more uncomfortable because of... er... less room? But still, if you have a full-length dress and you bunch it up to put on plate pants... even a girl would find that pretty uncomfortable. Chafing from folded cloth, things like that.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 11:33:47 pm »

What I mean is, you have a dress (two legs in one connected cloth tube) worn under plate pants (two legs in two separate tubes). Something would bunch up pretty awful or you'd have to cut holes in your dress.
I don't think guys wear dresses anyways.
They wear trousers.
No, they do.

What I mean is, you have a dress (two legs in one connected cloth tube) worn under plate pants (two legs in two separate tubes). Something would bunch up pretty awful or you'd have to cut holes in your dress.
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Who uses the cotton candy to make clothes, anyway?
I do for one. Morul did. It makes simply WONDERFUL extra layer. Because if I understand it correctly, there is a bug where hits might only count one layer, and if that happens, I want the weakest layer, cloths, to be still strong.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 11:53:32 pm »

There IS a such thing as a dress parted in the middle.  It was used for riding horses, but would probably work in this situation as well.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 04:18:34 am »

I like imagining dresses on dwarf men as them Roman tunics. Proper, too, since I always equip my soldiers with short swords and shields.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2011, 05:31:38 pm »

Because if I understand it correctly, there is a bug where hits might only count one layer, and if that happens, I want the weakest layer, cloths, to be still strong.

Excuse the thread necromancy, but is this true? The announcements certainly only always mention one layer, but since it's usually advised to put as much armor on your dwarves as possible (for example: not one mail shirt, but three) I thought all layers counted.
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Re: Uniforms "Over clothing" or "Replace clothing" ?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2011, 05:46:42 pm »

Well, I dunno about you lot, but somehow the thought of my dwarves charging into battle wearing plate or chainmail and nothing else makes me wince slightly. Think of the chafing!
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