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[PringleMan5]

Ok so I made muddy ground by accidentally breaching a pool. I turned fun into win and just converted the area into a farm.

Anyways I laid down a farm plot. The entire plot is not on muddy ground, but maybe 80% of it is. Certainly worth at least 9 or 10 tiles of farm.

I set it for plump helmets all year round, and...the farmers did nothing.

Understand I have gotten a total about about 6 farmers through immigrants, so I thought it odd that none of them were doing anything with the farm that I had designated. So I took a look at what they were doing. At the time they were moving rocks from the living level to my giant stone stockpile I built in a loam level so that I would not just dig out more stone. The stocks tell me that I have like 2000 stone already, and for a new fortress that is already far more than I need. But I digress.

Seeing that they were just hauling, I found the most competent farmer and told him to only A) Farm fields and B) Haul food and items. I figured if I set him so that his only real job was to move food and farm, he would farm.

So far he has not done anything still. I checked the ground the farm is build on and it is still muddy. I checked through my food pile stocks and I do in fact have plump helmet spawns. But the dwarf is still walking around not doing jack.

Am I supposed to wait for another season to start before they begin? Should I just re-irrigate it once I get some flowing water again (it is all frozen right now)?

[proxn_punkd]

I've had that problem. Farm plots have to be on 100% muddy ground or they won't work.

[PringleMan5]

alrighty, I wish that would be slightly more well documented, though perhaps I just did not read it when I was learning some of the changes on the wiki.

By the way, is there a way to melt water. I dont think the wilderness around my fortress can support me for much longer and the closest water that is not frozen over is 20 levels down in the carverns. I definitely do not have the time to make a pump stack, even a manual one.

[BigJake]

alrighty, I wish that would be slightly more well documented, though perhaps I just did not read it when I was learning some of the changes on the wiki.

By the way, is there a way to melt water. I dont think the wilderness around my fortress can support me for much longer and the closest water that is not frozen over is 20 levels down in the carverns. I definitely do not have the time to make a pump stack, even a manual one.

Just magma.  Best bet would be to gather plants and make some booze.

[PringleMan5]

Yea thats what it is looking like I am going to have to do for the next two seasons.

Hey on a side note, does anyone know why my fortress is becoming infested with shrubs and small trees? Is just because I have not put down a finished floor?

[NKDietrich]

I've had a similar issue. I had a farm on mostly, but not entirely muddy ground. They'd farm the first 3 tiles or so, but when they hit the first non-muddy spot, they just ignored the rest of the plot instead of just going to the next valid spot.

[PringleMan5]

Maybe an easy solution is to just designate 1 or 2 tile farms and skip over the non-muddy ones?

Again I would probably flood the whole thing again but I do not really have much water to work with as it is.

[pushy]

Hey on a side note, does anyone know why my fortress is becoming infested with shrubs and small trees? Is just because I have not put down a finished floor?

Possibility #1: Your fortress is outside (but if you had to ask then that'd be silly )
Possibility #2: You've breached the caverns and your fortress is either in a soil layer or muddy rock. Put down floors or smooth the rock if you don't want stuff growing there (in high-traffic areas it's less of an issue; dwarves and pets will trample saplings and kill them before they can grow into trees that will block the path) - putting down a floor will get rid of the mud (I think?) and whether it's a built floor tile or a smoothed floor tile, dwarves will clean the tile (eventually) if it gets muddy or covered in blood or whatever in the future But do NOT smooth floor tiles where you're placing farm plots - reports on the forum suggest that if you do so then dwarves will clean your farms periodically and you'll have to re-irrigate them every year (or was it every season?) to keep them running because the cleaning process gets rid of the mud that's needed for the underground farm.

[BigJake]

You could also mine out the area under it.  Unless irrigated, underground trees need a full tile of soil under them.

[PringleMan5]

I think in that case it was breaching the caverns, as I did reach down to the caverns with my central shaft, though I did not actually open into the caverns. I DID place an up/down stair that would have gone down into the cavern, but the next level down was water. Maybe the stair just opened a hole in the ceiling of the floor below?

Another possibility is that the only real bit of water I ever got access to left a large opening in the ceiling so maybe seeds were getting blown in or something.

Anyways it does not really matter now. Since I had no water source and the fools did not understand the concept of "Get booze from barrel, go to dining room next door and drink" they decided to throw a party and have some FUN. That fortress is not really viable anymore >_<