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[MetalSlimeHunt]

And, really, we can't regulate it when it's legal.

What. Uh, yes, yes we most certainly can.

[Criptfeind]

For real? The first job must have been hunter. Because both prostitutes and accounts need someone with resources.

And, really, we can't regulate it when it's legal.

What. Uh, yes, yes we most certainly can.

Yeah... that made very little sense Leaf, did you mean we can't when it is illegal?

[scriver]

This is a good thing for everyone. There will always be prostitutes, and there will alwayss be people who will hire them. Arresting them for that is just stupid, and now both sides will be safer. Now, disease and abuse can be properly reported without fear of arrests and everyone will be better off.

It's not the sex that should be illegal, it's the buying, and the trafficking. In Sweden, for example, victims of either free to report both abuse and disease without fear of arrest.

Anyway, this won't result in sex slavery, if anything it'll reduce it. If you go to a legal establishment and one of the prositutes tells you they're being held hostage, well... you'd tell the police about that, wouldn't you? I'm trying to see where your logic is coming from, and the only way it works is if everyone in the world is an apathetic sadistic monster.

They might not tell you. There could be any number of reasons for them not to - threats to their and their families lives amongst others.
Or maybe, you don't even speak the same language.
 

You make sure they are getting paid, and then if they are they can fucking leave

As said above, that might not be an option. If prostitution where legalised throughout the EU, you'd have these whoreganisations moving people all over the place - but especially from the eastern parts to the west. These people might not know how to leave, nor have the knowledge/language skills needed to communicate their state. Their pay might be sent back to "relatives" in the homeland. In fact, many victims of trafficking today are sold out to the traffickers by their own relatives.
In my eyes, you people are just far to naive and trusting to be able to see the seriousness of the issue. Nobody in today's society sells their own body out of free will.

Scriver, do you say this is a bad change?

Or are you just saying prostitution is bad in general?

I'm not saying it's a change for the worse, if that's what you mean. But on the other hand, legalising prostitution also feels like a way of sweeping the whole issue under the carpet and pretending nothing's wrong.

[KaguroDraven]

Eh, hunters count I guess, but it was more common to kill a hunter and take his stuff.

[Leafsnail]

And, really, we can't regulate it when it's legal.

What. Uh, yes, yes we most certainly can.

I meant to say "illegal" and somehow managed to say the exact opposite .

[Criptfeind]

Eh, hunters count I guess, but it was more common to kill a hunter and take his stuff.

That... what? How is that possible, without more resources going into this system you are describing it would not work.

It's not the sex that should be illegal, it's the buying, and the trafficking. In Sweden, for example, victims of either free to report both abuse and disease without fear of arrest.

This is not going to make it overnight legal to buy slaves. It will make it less economic to do so in fact.

They might not tell you. There could be any number of reasons for them not to - threats to their and their families lives amongst others.
Or maybe, you don't even speak the same language.

Once again, economics will make this make less money.

As said above, that might not be an option. If prostitution where legalised throughout the EU, you'd have these whoreganisations moving people all over the place - but especially from the eastern parts to the west. These people might not know how to leave, nor have the knowledge/language skills needed to communicate their state. Their pay might be sent back to "relatives" in the homeland. In fact, many victims of trafficking today are sold out to the traffickers by their own relatives.
In my eyes, you people are just far to naive and trusting to be able to see the seriousness of the issue. Nobody in today's society sells their own body out of free will.

That makes no sense, it things are accepted and regulated it will become easier to find humain rights violations, not harder.

And of course people sell themselves out of free will.

I'm not saying it's a change for the worse, if that's what you mean. But on the other hand, legalising prostitution also feels like a way of sweeping the whole issue under the carpet and pretending nothing's wrong.

But all the issues you have brought up are already here and this will only help to fix them.


Here let me put it in a better way.

Take X and say that the value X is how "good" a activity is. Now say that the value of X for prostitution is -10.

Now we say you have a change that makes it so X goes to -5.

You do not say that the change is bad or indifferent because X is negative five, you say it is good because X has raised by five.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

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This is a good thing for everyone. There will always be prostitutes, and there will alwayss be people who will hire them. Arresting them for that is just stupid, and now both sides will be safer. Now, disease and abuse can be properly reported without fear of arrests and everyone will be better off.

It's not the sex that should be illegal, it's the buying, and the trafficking. In Sweden, for example, victims of either free to report both abuse and disease without fear of arrest.

And this is different from what I said...how?

Anyway, this won't result in sex slavery, if anything it'll reduce it. If you go to a legal establishment and one of the prositutes tells you they're being held hostage, well... you'd tell the police about that, wouldn't you? I'm trying to see where your logic is coming from, and the only way it works is if everyone in the world is an apathetic sadistic monster.

They might not tell you. There could be any number of reasons for them not to - threats to their and their families lives amongst others.
Or maybe, you don't even speak the same language.

I think you're just paranoid about this. Someone who's honestly in this nightmare situation would try to do somthing. It's just human nature to try and escape a bad situation through any avenue, and someone would notice if their prostitute seemed abused in mind or body.
 

You make sure they are getting paid, and then if they are they can fucking leave

As said above, that might not be an option. If prostitution where legalised throughout the EU, you'd have these whoreganisations moving people all over the place - but especially from the eastern parts to the west. These people might not know how to leave, nor have the knowledge/language skills needed to communicate their state. Their pay might be sent back to "relatives" in the homeland. In fact, many victims of trafficking today are sold out to the traffickers by their own relatives.

No one is arguing the legalization of human trafficing.

In my eyes, you people are just far to naive and trusting to be able to see the seriousness of the issue. Nobody in today's society sells their own body out of free will.

Sure they do. People will do anything for money.

[Nilocy]

Once legalised it'll be illegal to not have good standards, increasing sex workers health, prosperity and most of all safety.

Also your government will earn quite a substantial amount of cash in taxes.

[Realmfighter]

Here is what you do.

You have a Sex Worker Social Worker who goes around doing interviews and STD checks for all registered Sex Worker.

Easy.

[Criptfeind]

And if prostitution someday becomes main stream it will be even better for people, you do not see slave accountants do you?

(Okay bad example)

[KaguroDraven]

What is it with you and accountants?

[Criptfeind]

OH HELP I AM A SLAVE ACCOUNTANT IN REALMFIGHTER BASEMENT! HE HAS GONE OUT FOR BOOZE, HELP ME!

[Leafsnail]

All those tricks he's turned with them in dark alleys.

It started with just a review of his spare change, but it quickly escalated to full on loan consolidation and tax return filling...

Trust me, accountancy is better off legal.

[Realmfighter]

OH HELP I AM A SLAVE ACCOUNTANT IN REALMFIGHTER BASEMENT! HE HAS GONE OUT FOR BOOZE, HELP ME!

Get back in there slave.

I know you like it

[Criptfeind]

OH GOD THE WHIP