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Criptfeind

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2010, 08:23:26 pm »

Dur hur hur

Because I can not admit when I am wrong?

I had a flawed argument so I dropped it.
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Criptfeind

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2010, 08:47:04 pm »

Srsly?

Scum slip =/= OMG 100% SCUM FOR SURE LOL

And then he pointed out how it was not even a scum slip so I say "OK."

And where was more later? First I have heard of it.
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Pandarsenic

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2010, 09:08:59 pm »

Not answering my question.

I am just frustrated that do not seem to see the inherent contradiction in your statements.

I can not tell if you are stupid or scum. I do not think scum would dive off the deep end like that.

But barring anyone else I will keep my vote on you.

How is being perpetually enraged scummier than letting slip that you're the Godfather?

BECAUSE FREUD MAY BE WRONG AND IT MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING

In my case, because I don't want accidental/reckless/scum-controlled hammers.

Oh. That makes sense.

You're going "OH HE SO SMAHT" and the "I don't think he's scum" implication is there.

Too lazy to grab the quote atm
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Criptfeind

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2010, 09:20:54 pm »

Okay.

I am sure you are twisting my words.

Quotes now because I don't believe you.
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IronyOwl

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #96 on: October 08, 2010, 10:21:55 pm »

Alright, I'm pretty sure now.

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I didn't realize this before, but Criptfeind skipped right over my supposed scumslip the first time, only to notice it later. So either you didn't read it the first time, or you only realized claiming to be the Godfather was scummy much later on. Considering you replied to the second part, I'm inclined to think the latter.


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Criptfeind, almost all of your argument with Pandarsenic has been over two points:

1. He refused to answer your original question
2. He's claiming a contradiction

In the case of #1, he said "starting at lylo is the whole point" and mentioned that he didn't want to rely on a second chance. That's not an especially good answer, but what sort of answer were you expecting? What would have been a good, townlike answer here, and why didn't you bother with any other questions when it became apparent he wasn't going to answer?

In the case of #2, I don't understand how "It's not X, but we should treat it as such" is a contradiction. Irrelevant, perhaps, but where is he saying two mutually exclusive things?

But what's more, this particular example is really goddamned obvious. It's not lylo, but we should be careful, because we might not get a second chance. The first is absolute fact; you can disagree with the second, but that doesn't mean it's irrational, and the premise is likewise absolute fact.

Finger's on the button, Criptfeind. Anything to say to this?
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Criptfeind

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2010, 10:31:02 pm »

Yes.

I skipped over your 'slip' because at the time I wanted to concentrate on Pandarsenic.

As fore the second point, it may be a crappy attack but other then people attacking me for a crappy attack I see no one else is doing anything.

You all seem to want me to have the answers, but you have supplied non yourselves.

I will remind you people that this is day one. There is almost never any good attacks. Am I pushing hard on a crappy attack? Yes. Is there anything else we can do? No.

If we do nothing on day one the scum own this game. We do not get second chances. We do not get more days. We do not get analysis. This is it.
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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #98 on: October 08, 2010, 10:42:13 pm »

As fore the second point, it may be a crappy attack but other then people attacking me for a crappy attack I see no one else is doing anything.
While the latter part is disturbingly accurate, my point isn't that it's feeble, it's that it's invalid. Attacking someone for a nonexistent reason isn't scumhunting.


I will remind you people that this is day one. There is almost never any good attacks. Am I pushing hard on a crappy attack? Yes. Is there anything else we can do? No.

If we do nothing on day one the scum own this game. We do not get second chances. We do not get more days. We do not get analysis. This is it.
Okay, what? You're saying it's day one and so we can't do anything good, but we don't get a second chance so we should make wild guesses and just go with it? How is this not in favor of your own lynch then?
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The kitchenette mold free, you move on to the pantry. it's nasty in there. The bacon is grazing on the lettuce. The ham is having an illicit affair with the prime rib, The potatoes see all, know all. A rat in boxer shorts smoking a foul smelling cigar is banging on a cabinet shouting about rent money.

Criptfeind

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #99 on: October 08, 2010, 10:57:21 pm »

While the latter part is disturbingly accurate, my point isn't that it's feeble, it's that it's invalid. Attacking someone for a nonexistent reason isn't scumhunting.

It is not 'nonexistent' it is as you say feeble. The contradiction is in how he chewed me out for saying it was lylo and then ending that paragraph by saying we should treat it like lylo.

I asked him how he says that and truly I can not think of a single answer that will satiate my vote against him. But non the less he is not trying to answer at all.

Okay, what? You're saying it's day one and so we can't do anything good, but we don't get a second chance so we should make wild guesses and just go with it? How is this not in favor of your own lynch then?

No. It is possibly the last day, we can sit on our asses and wait and hope to get lucky or try. Grab whatever you can because you are not getting anymore.

I got the most from Pandar. I have little, but it seems to be more then anyone else has bothered with.
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Pandarsenic

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2010, 12:28:48 am »

IT

IS NOT

LYLO

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THE GAME CANNOT END TODAY

However

WE SHOULD TREAT IT AS CAREFULLY AS IF IT WERE LYLO

IF A TOWNIE IS LYNCHED HE HAS A 50% CHANCE OF HITTING SCUM (100% if you're his target).

Is this really so difficult?
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Your bone is the best Pandar honey. The best.
YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR
[Cheeetar] Pandar doesn't have issues, he has style.
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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2010, 12:47:27 am »

IT

IS NOT

LYLO

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THE GAME CANNOT END TODAY
Yes, it can.
1/5 chance of hitting godfather. Instant win for town.
3/5 of hitting town. 1/4 chance of hitting godfather. 2/4 chance of hitting town and mafia win.

1/5 or(+) (3/5 and(*) (1/4 or(+) 2/4)
1/5 + (3/5 * 3/4)
1/5 + 9/20
13/20 of day ending today, or 65% of Game end today/tonight.
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Pandarsenic

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2010, 02:32:01 am »

today != tonight

I thought that distinction was fairly clear in my post.
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KARATE CHOP TO THE SOUL
Your bone is the best Pandar honey. The best.
YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR
[Cheeetar] Pandar doesn't have issues, he has style.
Fuck off, you fucking fucker-fuck :I

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2010, 02:42:34 am »

1/5 chance of hitting godfather. Instant win for town.
Ahem.
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Pandarsenic

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Re: Vengeful Mafia 1 - Day 1
« Reply #104 on: October 09, 2010, 03:14:09 am »

Derp.

...

Regardless of me now looking like a tardface, my statements on that:
1) We should proceed with caution
2) Criptfeind has been transparently buddying IronyOwl
Are both true.
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KARATE CHOP TO THE SOUL
Your bone is the best Pandar honey. The best.
YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR
[Cheeetar] Pandar doesn't have issues, he has style.
Fuck off, you fucking fucker-fuck :I
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