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[KaguroDraven]

Oh! I forgot something for the Floating Obsidion Fortress one, a lever to make the entire fortress just fall and kill everyone inside.

[Krath]

A glorious giant statue of a dwarf that spans 200z levels and is built from the whitest of marble and the blackest of obsidian for the beard.

Let Armok's will be done.

[Vehudur]

A glorious giant statue of a dwarf that spans 200z levels and is built from the whitest of marble and the blackest of obsidian for the beard.

Let Armok's will be done.

I absolutely fail at building statues.  It never looks right.  *sad*

Oh! I forgot something for the Floating Obsidion Fortress one, a lever to make the entire fortress just fall and kill everyone inside.

Of course, what game do you think I'm playing?

[Krath]

A glorious giant statue of a dwarf that spans 200z levels and is built from the whitest of marble and the blackest of obsidian for the beard.

Let Armok's will be done.

I absolutely fail at building statues.  It never looks right.  *sad*

I feel your pain.

In that case I recommend something ridiculously complex. Have you considered a Dwarven AI? AKA, a single Dwarf in an unreachable room filled with levers that control various things. It's efficient and allows for quick defense and such. Just drop food and booze in through a chute, and provide him with a nice bedroom and dining room and he'll stay happy.

Alternately, I'm partial to making overly complicated death traps for annoying nobles. A simple lever to release magma into the room isn't enough. I do things like making a pressure plate so that when they enter their room they fall into a trap chute that sends them into a pit of steel spikes.

Good times.

[Vehudur]

A glorious giant statue of a dwarf that spans 200z levels and is built from the whitest of marble and the blackest of obsidian for the beard.

Let Armok's will be done.

I absolutely fail at building statues.  It never looks right.  *sad*

I feel your pain.

In that case I recommend something ridiculously complex. Have you considered a Dwarven AI? AKA, a single Dwarf in an unreachable room filled with levers that control various things. It's efficient and allows for quick defense and such. Just drop food and booze in through a chute, and provide him with a nice bedroom and dining room and he'll stay happy.

Alternately, I'm partial to making overly complicated death traps for annoying nobles. A simple lever to release magma into the room isn't enough. I do things like making a pressure plate so that when they enter their room they fall into a trap chute that sends them into a pit of steel spikes.

Good times.

All that stuff is par when you have a 20 - 30 year old fortress though

Except the AI, but I do have a "control room" of sorts full of levers.

[meto30]

I have in my possesion the coveted 'Middle-Earth Atlas' confirmed and condoned by Christopher Tolkien. It contains very detailed maps of many places in Middle-Earth, most of them based on actual sketches and diagrams by the venerable JRR Tolkien himself.

Unfortunately, it too lacks a detailed layout of Khazad-dum. I think Tolkien kept his ideas to himself.

[Vehudur]

I have in my possesion the coveted 'Middle-Earth Atlas' confirmed and condoned by Christopher Tolkien. It contains very detailed maps of many places in Middle-Earth, most of them based on actual sketches and diagrams by the venerable JRR Tolkien himself.

Unfortunately, it too lacks a detailed layout of Khazad-dum. I think Tolkien kept his ideas to himself.

I have one at home, but not here.  I'd love to be able to get it here, but I'd hate to see it damaged.  Either way, I can't get to it.

It would be really nice to have a good khazad-dum layout, but...  hmm..

[meto30]

One other thing. Will you stay faithful to the book Moria, or the movie Moria?
I'm not an original material Nazi, so I'd like to burrow several leaves from the movie Moria, IF I ever get to building my own. And the chambers in the movie version are, well, COLOSSAL in scale. To accurately portray the movie's halls we(dwarves) would have to dig hollows 6~8 z-levels high with 5~6 tiles between each pillar, with the 21st hall(the hall where the fellowship finds the Chamber of Records) spanning at least ONE HUNDRED pillars in every cardinal direction. And the 2nd Hall(the one with the bridge, reportedly the largest chamber in Moria) is supposed to be at least TEN TIMES the size of the 21st. So, Moria was truly the Ultimate Dwarf Fortress of Middle Earth.

[KaguroDraven]

One other thing. Will you stay faithful to the book Moria, or the movie Moria?
I'm not an original material Nazi, so I'd like to burrow several leaves from the movie Moria, IF I ever get to building my own. And the chambers in the movie version are, well, COLOSSAL in scale. To accurately portray the movie's halls we(dwarves) would have to dig hollows 6~8 z-levels high with 5~6 tiles between each pillar, with the 21st hall(the hall where the fellowship finds the Chamber of Records) spanning at least ONE HUNDRED pillars in every cardinal direction. And the 2nd Hall(the one with the bridge, reportedly the largest chamber in Moria) is supposed to be at least TEN TIMES the size of the 21st. So, Moria was truly the Ultimate Dwarf Fortress of Middle Earth.

Except for the fact they fell to goblins and a Forgotten Beast, not the Circus, Magma, or Each other.

[ungulateman]

The Balrog was a 40d-style ringleader, dude. It just murdered all the other demons because it got bored.

[KaguroDraven]

I never played 40d so I wouldn't know. Besides not all balrogs are evil, just most. One carries the sun around >.>.

[Quantum Toast]

Balrogs are pretty much made of magma anyway.

[Vehudur]

One other thing. Will you stay faithful to the book Moria, or the movie Moria?
I'm not an original material Nazi, so I'd like to burrow several leaves from the movie Moria, IF I ever get to building my own. And the chambers in the movie version are, well, COLOSSAL in scale. To accurately portray the movie's halls we(dwarves) would have to dig hollows 6~8 z-levels high with 5~6 tiles between each pillar, with the 21st hall(the hall where the fellowship finds the Chamber of Records) spanning at least ONE HUNDRED pillars in every cardinal direction. And the 2nd Hall(the one with the bridge, reportedly the largest chamber in Moria) is supposed to be at least TEN TIMES the size of the 21st. So, Moria was truly the Ultimate Dwarf Fortress of Middle Earth.

I'm not sure, it'd probably span several embarks, just because of the sheer scale of it, and I haven't figured out how to knock out map borders yet.

It'd probably look very similar to the movie Moria, just because I've seen it so much.

[Itnetlolor]

You want ideas, I just added more fort types to the Types of Fortress' thread. You can always embark in a town and give it the ultimate DF upgrade.

Space Station and a Jetsons replica are my contributions as well (or anything else listed under Mega-projects in the list).

[Vehudur]

You want ideas, I just added more fort types to the Types of Fortress' thread. You can always embark in a town and give it the ultimate DF upgrade.

Space Station and a Jetsons replica are my contributions as well (or anything else listed under Mega-projects in the list).

I'll probably just build Blackstone City like I said. 


Finding a 25+ z-level deep canyon in an otherwise flat (but highly volcanic!) area to build it at the bottom of should be easy.
But how do I get the rock strata to look like this:

Black sand (surface)
Basalt (canyon cut into these)
Basalt
Sandstone
Shale (aquifer*)
Slate (bottom of canyon)
Slate
Gabbro

Yes, you really can get lava flowing over sandstone, and it won't melt through it - it will, however, bake the top few feet of sandstone into glass quartzite.  I'm not sure if the game is capable of building this, however.

* The aquifer being above the bottom of the canyon leads to a "crying cliffs" effect, with many many small streams starting on the cliffs and falling to the river, but I doubt the game is capable of that either.