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[Dok Enkephalin]

I've got barrels of fat to render, but can't add the job to the kitchen. I've got plenty of tallow, restricted from cooking use, and I've got lye prepared, but I can't add production to the soapery. What am I missing?

[slothen]

soap making is queued from the manager menu

[Dok Enkephalin]

I already queued it just to try, but that wasn't necessary before. Is this going to work?

[LionSilverWolf]

It should happen automatically when you have all the ingredients and a soap maker with soap making turned on  (that last part was my problem).

[Dok Enkephalin]

I've done it through the workshop before, don't see why I shouldn't be able to now. If it happened automagically, that'd be great, except that it isn't; I still have a growing stock of fat and a deepening shortage of soap.

[varangian]

For the moment soap making is bugged so doesn't behave like most other jobs, I've run into the same problem. You shouldn't need to worry about tallow as this job does get added automatically whenever an animal is slaughtered. It's handy to have two kitchens and at least two cooks around so you can keep on churning out lavish meals without blocking the rendering jobs. Lye you can produce in the standard way. Once you've got those sitting around in reasonable quantities then go into the manager (m) screen, type in soap and once the 'Make soap' job comes up type in a suitable number and await events.

As you've got a soap workshop and a soap maker you should now see occasional progress reports as to how much soap has been made. If the workshop runs out of something (barrels, tallow, lye) you'll get a red message saying the job can't be completed and the reason. Unlike the 'can't make' messages from jobs added at a workshop this job is still on the to-do list so once the deficiency has been remedied production will pick up where it left off. Oddly enough I found that having set up jobs this way I could, for a time, add more soap making jobs onto the workshop's queue in the usual way, but this option disappeared later.

[Dok Enkephalin]

There are kitchens for every subcommunity, dedicated cooks for three of them, and the rest have someone nearby with cooking enabled. The problem is that I've loaded them all up with meal orders to consolidate storage space, so auto-renders won't fit in their queues, and I can't manually add them.

This shouldn't matter because I've still got loads of tallow stock restricted from cooking, I've got buckets of lye, and yet I can't manually add soap making to the soap workshop. I put in work orders for soap, and I've seen it appear on the queue and slip off the queue, but the amounts aren't increasing in the hospital or z-stocks. So where did it go?

[Vhorthex]

My friend, you HAVE TO set it with an active manager.

Once you get your first bar of soap done that way, in some cases the option "Make Soap" will appear at the workshop.

Cheers,

[Dok Enkephalin]

My friend, you HAVE TO set it with an active manager.

You must've missed this:

I put in work orders for soap, and I've seen it appear on the queue and slip off the queue

and this:

but the amounts aren't increasing in the hospital or z-stocks

So. Can you be helpy after reading the text, maybe?

[varangian]

I put in work orders for soap, and I've seen it appear on the queue and slip off the queue, but the amounts aren't increasing in the hospital or z-stocks. So where did it go?

Maybe a bit obvious but do you have a designated manager with a little office to work in? I can't remember whether you can access the menu and set up jobs that won't be actioned because you don't have a manager, but that would be a very DF kind of thing. If do have everything necessary then you should either be seeing progress reports and an announcement when the order is complete or periodic red messages saying why the soap maker can't fulfil the order.

[Dok Enkephalin]

Yeah, that is pretty obvious. I don't think I could've put in work orders without a manager. She's got a pretty opulent office, and I'm paying attention every time she goes over work orders for approval. The soap order does have a green check, and it probably wouldn't have appeared in the workshop otherwise. Tallow and lye are standing by, but the soap still isn't being made.

EDIT: For that matter, I still have shittons of fat that still isn't being rendered. I would someday like to have mountain titan soap and forgotten beast soap from the fat I have stockpiled, but the  production isn't much falling into place.

EDIT: You know, how about we forget this whole fucking guessing game and come to a goddamn solution! I've got the fucking ingredients and the fucking infrastructure and now I just need the fucking soap so my fucking soldiers don't fucking die!

[Hamster Man]

Hmm... you said you put it on the queue via manager, and then it was gone from the manager? Unless I miss my guess, that means the job was done. So, what you really want is to set it to repeating, right? Unfortunately you can't do that from the manager, though if you queue up jobs 30 at a time multiple times, you'll probably get what you're aiming for.

As for the unrendered fat, that is likely just a problem of time and clutter - many forgotten beasts don't drop one unit of fat, but closer to 100's at a single time, which, when all in a single kitchen, cause it to be "cluttered"... and thus take a SERIOUSLY long time to finally get rendered. I had one that was 367 units of fat, took probably a year to finally get it all done... and don't even talk about how long it took to be made into soap.

[Edit] As for where the soap went...? Check the stocks, under "Bars" - it should tell you how much and, when you zoom, where it went.

[candylord]

honestly, its probably just easier to buy some barrels of Lye from the dwarven caravans
cause I think right now dwarves seem to refuse to transfer buckets of lye into barrels, which is where I found my problem
all I do now is max request barrels of lye, every year, and that gives me 4ish barrels to work with

[Dok Enkephalin]

I put the soap orders on queue through the manager and it appeared in the workshop, then dwindled from the workshop without any soap added to the stocks. It didn't count down from the work order though, so naturally the orders have re-appeared back in the workshop queue.

I'd gladly buy it, but coming out of a siege I've apparently missed the window for the dwarven caravan this year, and it didn't show up. Meanwhile I've got injured soldiers who won't live to the next autumn without disinfectant.

EDIT: Oh, and do I need to add yet again that I'VE GOT FUCKING TALLOW AND FUCKING LYE! THEY ARE RIGHT HERE! READY TO FUCKING PRODUCE SOME FUCKING SOAP! CAN WE NOW GET THIS SHIT DONE?

[BigJake]

What, exactly, do you want us to do?  These folks have been trying to gather information to help you but soap is buggy as hell.  If you've got tallow, lye in barrels and a work order then you should be making soap and it should be in a bar stockpile.  If it's not, I'm sorry, but you might just be out of luck.