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[Vehudur]

This is something I'm experimenting with.  I set up the basic economy up top, then had my miners dig down past the caverns* 

*Actually, I struck the first and second caverns and walled off those passages - I had the shaft go horizontal for a time every 5 Z levels so I could do that.

Of course, I'm not using Blue for anything other than a maxed legendary Armorsmith / Weaponsmith.  I'm just gathering it.

Why?

To increase the value of the fortress (though, TBH I'm not sure if raw Blue increases value much), to get more immigrants earlier.

There's just one big, big problem that you may have already realized.

Hidden Fun Stuff is Extra Fun when you've got 14 Dwarves (I'd already had some immigrants when I struck Blue)

Indeed, the first time it was Extra Fun Very Quickly, because I wasn't fast enough walling off that section.

The second time it worked.  I approached the Blue on each Z-level separately, and walled off that Z-level if I struck Fun - which was only once after the first, because I accidentally cut a corner away of the vein.
Here's exactly how I made it work:

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I dug a vertical shaft down to the magma sea, and breached its surface.  Revealing a portion of the magma sea showed me part of a vein, and I went back up  a few Z levels and dug over to near it.  At this point, I dug out a small area with a small food and drink store and a few beds for my two miners (who were already legendary, so I wasn't wasting any ores - I would cry, hard, if I missed a Blue ore).  This was so that I could keep the mason down there; and I marked the passages up so he wouldn't wander back up.  I then dug a long winding passage away from the Blue vein and dug back to it then.  I built a stairwell at the barracks and built a new winding passage for each Z-level to the edge of the Blue.  I then began to mine it, until I struck Fun which revealed the entire cavity, and after walling off that Z-level at the shaft I was able to mine the rest of the layers I could get to in relative peace, except for the demons two feet of Blue from my miners, and knowing if I made a slip-up it was going to be Very Fun.

Now, this means I can't get at the lower levels of the vein due to the magma sea, but that is better than Extra Fun Very Quickly again by a lot.

The point?   As said before, to increase the value of the fort.  More value is more migrants (if I understand this properly), and that means I can develop the rest of my fort faster.

Or, if I make a mistake, they're all going to die horrible horrible deaths.  But that's standard.

I made a stockpile for the Blue next to my furnaces, but it's behind a closed floodgate so that I don't end up with a bunch of Blue made by a novice smith on accident. 

Digging down this deep this early also allowed me to construct a pump stack and bring magma up top for my furnaces early, and I embarked on a map with lots of sand so I have a lot of glass, well, everything now.  Except beds, I find it disappointing you can't make glass beds.

[Aramco]

I would train an axedwarf or two just in case, if I were you.

[Vehudur]

I would train an axedwarf or two just in case, if I were you.

I had two, but they weren't all that great (still aren't but they're better), and quite honestly, unless it was 2 of my Axedwarves vs one Fun Critter, it'd be over very quickly anyways.  And they NEVER show up as just one.

[fivex]

Mining raw cotton candy will always result in a chunk of raw cotton candy, no matter the miners skill.
If you only are using it for a legendary weapon/armor smith, you don't need to make a floodgate to block the ore/wafers off. Bars/strands dont have quality levels(cloth DOES however, so do what I'm about to say for a loom too, if you are going to be making adamantine cloaks or something), and you can just have a forge [P]rofiled to only allow legendary workers and only order adamantine stuff through that

[Vehudur]

Mining raw cotton candy will always result in a chunk of raw cotton candy, no matter the miners skill.
If you only are using it for a legendary weapon/armor smith, you don't need to make a floodgate to block the ore/wafers off. Bars/strands dont have quality levels(cloth DOES however, so do what I'm about to say for a loom too, if you are going to be making adamantine cloaks or something), and you can just have a forge [P]rofiled to only allow legendary workers and only order adamantine stuff through that

..

I feel really silly for not knowing I could restrict workshops to legendary workers, because that's been an endless pain in my side.

[ZhangC1459]

Mining raw cotton candy will always result in a chunk of raw cotton candy, no matter the miners skill.
If you only are using it for a legendary weapon/armor smith, you don't need to make a floodgate to block the ore/wafers off. Bars/strands dont have quality levels(cloth DOES however, so do what I'm about to say for a loom too, if you are going to be making adamantine cloaks or something), and you can just have a forge [P]rofiled to only allow legendary workers and only order adamantine stuff through that

..

I feel really silly for not knowing I could restrict workshops to legendary workers, because that's been an endless pain in my side.

needs a manager though

[Aramco]

Mining raw cotton candy will always result in a chunk of raw cotton candy, no matter the miners skill.
If you only are using it for a legendary weapon/armor smith, you don't need to make a floodgate to block the ore/wafers off. Bars/strands dont have quality levels(cloth DOES however, so do what I'm about to say for a loom too, if you are going to be making adamantine cloaks or something), and you can just have a forge [P]rofiled to only allow legendary workers and only order adamantine stuff through that

..

I feel really silly for not knowing I could restrict workshops to legendary workers, because that's been an endless pain in my side.

needs a manager though

Manager takes 4 seconds to appoint. And that time is assuming you have never played DF before.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I have collected shiny my first year as well. It's easy when you set [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:100] in worldgen.

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

I have collected shiny my first year as well. It's easy when you set [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:100] in worldgen.

That makes it how far below the surface?

[Urist Imiknorris]

From the magma sea down a hundred levels. And maybe up into the caverns.

[Aramco]

I have collected shiny my first year as well. It's easy when you set [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:100] in worldgen.

That makes it how far below the surface?

I think just below the surface, if not on the surface.

EDIT: Ninja'd. Darn.

[Urist Imiknorris]

...It puts a hundred levels between layer 5(spoilers) and the layer above it (magma sea). The rest is unaffected.

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

...It puts a hundred levels between layer 5(spoilers) and the layer above it (magma sea). The rest is unaffected.

I dare say, you should be awarded the Bisol Prize for Least Dangerous Blue Gathering Stuff-thingamajig!

[Patchy]

It's not any less dangerous than usual I'd say. The hollow part can still come at any point in that extra long tube. But it's still a nice idea, and one I might have to start implementing into my world gens.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Until recently I had it set to 25 levels, and that gave me on average ~6000 adamantine per map.