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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #270 on: November 11, 2010, 10:40:41 am »

Are your lines coplanars? If so artg slope1 minus arctg slope 2
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #271 on: November 11, 2010, 10:42:22 am »

Fixed.

EDIT: Double fixed!
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« Reply #272 on: November 11, 2010, 11:26:10 am »

Today I found out that I was the only one in my class that remembered "Soh Cah Toa." Thanks, guys. ^_^

*cheers*


Today I was beaten in the face by the Axiom of Choice =/  On the other hand, now I know what it is...

The Axiom of Choice is obviously true, the well-ordering principle obviously false, and who can tell about Zorn's lemma?
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« Reply #273 on: November 11, 2010, 11:31:18 am »

Today I found out that I was the only one in my class that remembered "Soh Cah Toa." Thanks, guys. ^_^

*cheers*


Today I was beaten in the face by the Axiom of Choice =/  On the other hand, now I know what it is...

*looks it up on wikipedia*
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*head asplode*
Yeah... It SHOULD be simple... but it has some crazy results.
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« Reply #274 on: November 11, 2010, 11:35:16 am »

The Axiom of Choice is obviously true, the well-ordering principle obviously false, and who can tell about Zorn's lemma?

I don't know about Zorn's lemma, but aren't the other two logically equivalent?  Isn't that why the axiom of choice is controversial?
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« Reply #275 on: November 11, 2010, 01:00:18 pm »

The Axiom of Choice is obviously true, the well-ordering principle obviously false, and who can tell about Zorn's lemma?

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I don't know about Zorn's lemma, but aren't the other two logically equivalent?  Isn't that why the axiom of choice is controversial?

They're all logically equivalent, as is the statement that every surjective function has a right inverse.

IIRC, AoC is controversial because it isn't a very axiom-ish axiom.  It sounds more like something requiring proof than something one can readily accept as a backbone of theory.
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« Reply #276 on: November 11, 2010, 05:57:34 pm »

When the bottle is empty, V is zero. Solve for t.

No calculator, and I haven't the foggiest idea how to solve a raised-the-four equation for t. I got that V=0 when the bottle is empty.
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« Reply #277 on: November 11, 2010, 06:03:16 pm »

You don't need a calculator.

You can solve that by factoring, or with the quadratic equation. Make a substitution of u = t2 to help you see it.
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« Reply #278 on: November 11, 2010, 11:26:20 pm »

IIRC, AoC is controversial because it isn't a very axiom-ish axiom.  It sounds more like something requiring proof than something one can readily accept as a backbone of theory.

It is a little strange for sure.  It's a bit like the parallel postulate - it doesn't quite fit.  However, it also causes madness like the Banach-Tarski paradox or non-measurable sets.  Most mathematicians like the bizarre results, but some object since they prefer a more intuitive approach. There's a professor at my school who is very opposed to the axiom of choice.  He makes fun of the functional analysists who use it every day.
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« Reply #279 on: November 11, 2010, 11:51:47 pm »

Yeah, I'm definitely not sure how I feel about it yet.  On the one hand, I like the results.  On the other hand, I'm not so fond of the fact that we can't prove it...
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« Reply #280 on: November 13, 2010, 11:38:31 pm »

This exponential equation has me stumped. I'm supposed to solve for x and approximate to three decimal places.

22x - 4 * 2x = 21

Now, this can be converted to the following, right?

22x - 22 * 2x = 21
thus
22x - 22+x = 21

I'm pretty sure that I'm supposed to do something fancy with logarithms and the change of base formula at this point, but darned if I know what it is. I can't figure out how to isolate x at all.
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« Reply #281 on: November 13, 2010, 11:52:11 pm »

Logarithms won't help you. Tell me something about this problem: is this a Diophantine equation?

Edit: Of course it isn't Diophantine. It says to estimate to 3 decimal places.
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« Reply #282 on: November 13, 2010, 11:55:19 pm »

Variables as integers only? No. All of the other problems in this set have had irrational decimal answers.
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« Reply #283 on: November 13, 2010, 11:55:51 pm »

Watching this with bated breath, because I don't know how to solve it, either.

I suck at equation manipulation.
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« Reply #284 on: November 13, 2010, 11:56:51 pm »

Watching this with bated breath, because I don't know how to solve it, either.

I suck at equation manipulation.
Me too.  May try it, though.
I'll almost assuredly fail.
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