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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #180 on: October 27, 2010, 10:47:33 pm »

Verify that the equation is true.
tanθ +   cosθ  = secθ
       1 + sinθ

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« Reply #181 on: October 27, 2010, 11:12:04 pm »

Okay.

tanx + cosx/(1 + sinx)

(tanx + sinxtanx + cosx)/(1 + sinx)

(tanx + (sin2x + cos2x)/cosx)/(1 + sinx)

(tanx + secx)/(1 + sinx)

(sinx + 1)/(cosx(1 + sinx))

1/cosx

secx = secx

If a step doesn't make sense just let me know.
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« Reply #182 on: October 27, 2010, 11:18:12 pm »

Argembarger, I worked out the leaky bucket in well problem myself, and I got somewhere ~1e4 ft·lb of energy (I'm not doing your homework for you). I think I have your error. Your integral should be of the form

W = ∫ F(l)·dl

Instead you have something like this

W ≠ ∫ F(l)·(l(l) dl)

This is wrong, wrong, wrong. Once you get the force as a function of height, you are halfway there.

Edit: in particlar, when the bucket is empty, the work done on the bucket should be a linear function of height. Is the antiderivitive of your second integral (where the bucket is empty) linear?

...Oh good lord, you're absolutely right. I'm glad I decided not to e-mail my professor.

And don't worry about "doing my homework for me", as it's already been submitted. I just decided to take the 0 for that portion (Edit: just to clarify, I took the 0 because the assignment autosubmitted at 8:00 this morning, not because I refused to fix it or take a 0 out of shame or anything); and anyway if you had just given me an answer without explanation that wouldn't really help me in the long run at all, like, say, the midterm at the end of the week :P

Anyway, since we can keep submitting after it's due (simply for practice purposes) I redid the problem, I got it now, thanks a lot!
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #183 on: October 27, 2010, 11:55:14 pm »

stuff

Awesome, thanks.
I have trouble with math when I can't see the application in things.
Like the chapter on sinusoidal regressions I could do because it was all about meteorology, and the occasional physics problem that gets thrown in here and there.
But I find proofing things and these verifications painful.
Stupid higher-level math.

Oh wow, and then the next problem is sinx cotx = 1.
I needed to make it cosx = 1.
Two steps, man. Two steps...
So easy.

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« Reply #184 on: October 28, 2010, 03:43:52 pm »

steps? mmmm

Alternate method
cosx/(sinx+1)=secx-tanx
cosx=secx-tanx+sinxsecx-tanxsinx

sinx=o/h
cosx=a/h
tanx=o/a

opposite, hypotenuse, and adjacent sides.

a/h=h/a-o/a+(o/h)(h/a)-(o/h)*(o/a)
a/h=h/a-o/a+o/a-o^2/ha
a/h=h/a-o^2/ha

*ha

a^2=h^2-o^2
o^2+a^2=h^2

h^2=o^2+a^2
pythagorean theorem

(This won't work well in later math classes because you can have more than one θ, but it may save your ass if you don't know a specific formula.)


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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #185 on: October 28, 2010, 03:55:46 pm »

Can't you use cot(x) = 1/tan(x)?
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« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2010, 08:12:46 am »

Just a quick question, if I have two triangles, A and B. If each of A's segments equal half B's segments will A's medians equal half of B's medians? (eg, A's dimensions are 2,3,2 and B's are 4,6,4, and A's medians equal, say, 4,5,4, will B's medians be 8,10,8?)
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« Reply #187 on: October 29, 2010, 10:08:58 am »

Yes.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #188 on: October 29, 2010, 10:14:46 am »

That's great then, thanks.
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« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2010, 02:54:13 pm »

I only came to this thread to complain about how our mathematics teacher didn't give us proper explanation of why anything to the power of zero is one (as in 70=1, if my vocab fails yet again).

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« Reply #190 on: October 29, 2010, 02:59:54 pm »

I only came to this thread to complain about how our mathematics teacher didn't give us proper explanation of why anything to the power of zero is one (as in 70=1, if my vocab fails yet again).
Does this explain it more satisfactorily?
xn/xn=1 because you are dividing a number by itself.
However, because xn/xm=xn-m, xn/xn=xn-n=x0
Therefore x0=1
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2010, 03:23:53 pm »

I only came to this thread to complain about how our mathematics teacher didn't give us proper explanation of why anything to the power of zero is one (as in 70=1, if my vocab fails yet again).
Does this explain it more satisfactorily?
xn/xn=1 because you are dividing a number by itself.
However, because xn/xm=xn-m, xn/xn=xn-n=x0
Therefore x0=1
Yeah, thanks.

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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #192 on: October 29, 2010, 03:46:23 pm »

I only came to this thread to complain about how our mathematics teacher didn't give us proper explanation of why anything to the power of zero is one (as in 70=1, if my vocab fails yet again).

Or, alternatively, we often define something to the zeroth power as one for convenience.  Makes all the rest of the stuff work out well.


EDIT: All right, off to make another attempt at proving calculus.  Wish me luck.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #193 on: October 30, 2010, 01:19:29 pm »

Wait so how did you factor terms like 45a5 again. I just suddenly forgot this; 9a4 is a factor of 45a5, and I'm stuck wondering how they did that. Any help?
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« Reply #194 on: October 30, 2010, 01:22:16 pm »

Why would you want to factor things like 45a5?
As to the second sentence: (9a4)(5a)=45a5
I don't see the point though...
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