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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1380 on: December 15, 2013, 06:58:43 am »

Trigonometric proofs? Do you mean proofs of statements that use trigonometric functions, or geometric proofs using trigonometry?
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1381 on: December 15, 2013, 10:24:24 am »

@Ligthingfalcon: Or do you mean trigonometric identities? I remember that name from high school, and there were more than on this wikipedia article.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1382 on: December 15, 2013, 12:12:35 pm »

Proofs that require identities to solve.
Things like cos^2=1-sin^2, but a bit more complicated.
Also problems such as cos(x)=tan(x)+sin(x)^2, where you have to solve for x.   
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1383 on: December 15, 2013, 12:32:06 pm »

You could take the Wikipedia page on trigonometric identities and try and prove all the stated identities by using other identities.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1384 on: December 15, 2013, 12:33:37 pm »

How about Taylor expansions? :P
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1385 on: January 15, 2014, 02:58:01 am »

What is the graph of

y=1/5*(x-4)^(5/3)+2 (x-4)^(2/3)
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Wolfram Alpha has it to be complex when x <4, but my book and my ti84 has it real for all x.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1386 on: January 15, 2014, 03:21:30 am »

I'm betting WA interpreted it as 1/(5*(x-4)^(5/3)). It's real for all x.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1387 on: January 15, 2014, 03:55:15 am »

I'll have your bet. What did you bet? :P

If you pasted it into WA, you can see it interpreted it the way it should have been interpreted, with 1/5 being multiplied by (x-4)^(5/3).
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1388 on: January 15, 2014, 04:25:56 am »

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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1389 on: January 15, 2014, 04:41:01 am »

What is the graph of

y=1/5*(x-4)^(5/3)+2 (x-4)^(2/3)
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Wolfram Alpha has it to be complex when x <4, but my book and my ti84 has it real for all x.
For me, it interpreted it as (x-4) O.o
Just whip out some paper and start plotting - hint: It's the graph of (1/5)*x^(5/3) + 2*x^(2/3) , just moved four units to the right.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1390 on: January 15, 2014, 04:52:41 am »

Copy paste the entire thing into WA. It says that the plot is complex for x <4.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1391 on: January 15, 2014, 05:48:36 am »

IIRC, there's a minor detail about x^p for x<0 when p is not an integer.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1392 on: January 15, 2014, 06:34:16 am »

Skyrunner, when you input your formula, WA says "Assuming principal root, use real-valued root instead" at the top of the results box. Click the hypertext and you should get correct results instead.
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1393 on: January 15, 2014, 07:22:19 am »

Accursed fine text!

So what's a principal root? I noticed that if you take the number Wolfram says is (-4)^(3/2) (something something i) and square it then sqrt it, it's equal to the real-value root times minus one!
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Re: Mathematics Help Thread
« Reply #1394 on: January 15, 2014, 07:49:36 am »

AFAIK, principal roots are roots in the complex plane - there's usually many of them,and they're all on a circle.
For example, the principal third roots of 2 would be 2^(1/3), 2^(1/3)*e^(i*120°), and 2^(1/3)*e^(i*240°).
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