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Sinepy

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Beer for my Barracks
« on: September 26, 2010, 02:34:33 pm »

Hi! I made a barracks containing two stockpiles:

1) Food only (almost everything but "plant drinks")
2) Food only (just "plant drinks")

I did this so that my soldiers wouldn't have to travel so far to get food and drinks while they are training.

My problem is, that drinks are never stored in stockpile number 2. I have no problem with stockpile number 1 because they always get to fill it with food.

I already tried turning on the "take" option (and targeting my main food stockpiles) to try and coax them to get drinks, but to no avail. Stockpile 2 just stays empty. How do I get them to put drinks there?

I will appreciate any help. Thanks! :)
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 03:15:36 pm »

Are you Sure, stockpile 2, is set up to take only plant drinks? Other then that, maybe you just don't have enough drinks to go around, and half your dwarfs are drinking water? Otherwise, not sure. Do you have enough Barrels?
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 03:19:39 pm »

I have 800? drinks to go around for a population of just 42. Plus, I have barrels just sitting there in the furniture stockpile. And I just checked it, it is set to plants drinks.

I wonder what's wrong :(
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 03:46:22 pm »

Is it accessible? Thats the last thing I can think of right now. They could be just a real simple break in the line. I once deleted a stair and my farmers were cut off, and all the other dwarfs were dieing.
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 04:13:38 pm »

Decrease the size of your original drink stockpile to allow more to overflow into your barracks.
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Sinepy

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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2010, 05:26:24 pm »

I'm pretty sure it's accessible.

I'll probably try your suggestion, cyks. But it really doesn't matter too much anymore at this point. It's more of a nuisance than a problem actually. I gave up when they started to fill stockpile 2 with stews and biscuits even if i only designated drinks to be placed there.  :'(

Thanks for your replies!
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010, 05:40:50 pm »

I gave up when they started to fill stockpile 2 with stews and biscuits even if i only designated drinks to be placed there.  :'(

Thanks for your replies!

Did you make sure to turn off prepared foods, too?  It's a pesky hidden little option not in the main list of things.
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2010, 09:10:50 pm »

If the stockpile is 1x1, your dwarves will put an empty barrel on it, and never a full one. If you disallow barrels, they won't bring anything to it at all. This is a known bug, and is listed on the bug tracker. Make the drink stockpile 2 tiles, and it should work fine.
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2010, 09:19:09 pm »

Two possibilities: Maybe you accidentally disabled barrels from the stockpile (and you can't store booze in anything else) or,

If the other booze stockpile is not full, they will just continue to fill that one up until it's full, especially if its closer to the still. I don't know how to transfer supplies from one stockpile to another.

I gave up when they started to fill stockpile 2 with stews and biscuits even if i only designated drinks to be placed there.  :'(

Thanks for your replies!

Did you make sure to turn off prepared foods, too?  It's a pesky hidden little option not in the main list of things.

I've had a similar problem in that prepared foods seem to be allowed in any food stockpile. i.e. I have one for plants only and one for unprepared fish only, and prepared foods get into both of them. There's a way to permit/forbid prepared foods? I haven't found it...
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2010, 09:58:53 pm »

when you designate a food stockpile, if the U on the screen is highlighted, it will receive prepared food. 1 still good trick, set a main prepared food stockpile with no barrels, set other places you want the food with barrels. The dwarfs will then transfer certain sized prepared meals to the pile which allows barrels. This helps loads when you want good food at a deep dining room, for you workers at the magma sea forges.
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2010, 10:02:12 pm »

when you designate a food stockpile, if the U on the screen is highlighted, it will receive prepared food. 1 still good trick, set a main prepared food stockpile with no barrels, set other places you want the food with barrels. The dwarfs will then transfer certain sized prepared meals to the pile which allows barrels. This helps loads when you want good food at a deep dining room, for you workers at the magma sea forges.

That sounds interesting but I don't really understand. Set a stockpile without barrels and they will go to the other stock piles? Huh?
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2010, 10:19:12 pm »

Two possibilities: Maybe you accidentally disabled barrels from the stockpile (and you can't store booze in anything else) or,
That's one good possibility. Although he's mentioned that the barracks piles are taking from "food stockpiles" (plural), another (slightly less likely) possibility is that he had tried to have two stockpiles taking from one stockpile (which can't be done), and another (which I'd hope is even less likely) is that he's accidentally got the order the wrong way round so the dwarves are being ordered to take from the barracks stockpile and put them in the main food stockpile.

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If the other booze stockpile is not full, they will just continue to fill that one up until it's full, especially if its closer to the still.
Nice thought, but it's not how taking from stockpiles works. If #2 is taking from #1 then they'll keep going until #2 is full and then start filling #1 :)

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I don't know how to transfer supplies from one stockpile to another.
Press 'q' and make sure the stockpile you want things moved to is highlighted. See where you're told how many bins/barrels the stockpile has? Underneath that, it says "Take From A Pile". Press 't', then move the cursor over the stockpile you want to take from, and hit Enter. If you've done it correctly, the stockpile that's taking from another stockpile will say something like "Food Stockpile #1", indicating that it's taking stuff from the named stockpile. A stockpile can take from several different stockpiles (Pile #1 can take from piles #2 and #3) but a stockpile can only give to one stockpile (if pile #1 is taking from pile #2 and you order pile #3 to take from pile #2, your dwarves will stop taking from pile #2 and putting them into pile #1 as the newer order (i.e. #3 takes from #2) takes priority over the older order)
You don't have to know how taking from stockpiles works (I very rarely use it) but it can serve its purposes. Having huge stockpiles far away from the rest of the fort, while having much smaller stockpiles near the workshops, your crafter dwarves can go through the stuff in the smaller stockpile and haulers will refill that stockpile with stuff in the huge pile...similarly, you could have lots of large stockpiles everywhere and keep a smallish stockpile near the trade depot that takes stuff you want to trade so it's all very near to the depot when the traders arrive (few things will piss you off more than spending several minutes watching your dwarves carry stuff to the depot and just before they get the last few dregs in you get the message saying that the merchants are leaving)

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I've had a similar problem in that prepared foods seem to be allowed in any food stockpile. i.e. I have one for plants only and one for unprepared fish only, and prepared foods get into both of them. There's a way to permit/forbid prepared foods? I haven't found it...
Again, press 'q' and highlight the stockpile. Press 's' to "Change Settings", go to Food and press 'u' which will permit or forbid Prepared Food (see it listed in the bottom-right of the screen?). There are a few others that work like this, the main one springing to my mind being sand bags (under the Furniture heading) :)
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Sinepy

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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 11:16:56 am »

Well, I got it working already by removing the old stockpile #2 and just re-designating it. Oh, and all of your suggestions helped too, especially the one about the prepared food. Now they properly get from the bigger stockpiles and bring it up to the barracks. Can't pinpoint what the initial problem was though.  :-\

Thanks! :)
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Re: Beer for my Barracks
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2010, 12:58:55 am »

I did not mean to get anyone confused, but it was the only way the version i use would allow prepared food transfers. For example, many prepared meals exceed the limit a barrel can hold. So by setting the main pile with no barrels, the secondary one with all barrels, anytime a prepared meal reached a size of 5, it was transferred to a barrel at the secondary one. This made the haulers less confused, lol
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