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[Ganthan]

I was doing Arena testing by having an armored dwarf get attacked by 10 simultaneous goblins with wooden spears to try to replicate the danger room when I couldn't help but notice how slowly he was gaining Dodge skill.  Even when I'd start the dwarf with Proficient Dodger which is the highest you can have at Embark and the goblins have no spear skill which means they miss a lot, I never once saw the dwarf gain the next level in Dodge.

I eventually took control of the dwarf directly and discovered that only 3, yes THREE, experience points are gained per successful dodge.  All other skills seem to gain plenty fast, but he'd have to dodge literally hundreds of times in order to go from even Novice to Adequate.

Surely this has got to be a typo in the code somewhere and a zero was left out of the total because it ought to be ten times more than that to make it more normal.  A dwarven soldier would likely die of old age before he mastered dodging with only three points per dodge.

With parrying and shield blocking also being viable and easily trained options, this lack of dodging might not be such a big deal.  However, Fortress Mode testing needs to be done to determine if this slow gain also transfers to Dodging Demonstrations as well.  If so then this might be a big reason why organized training goes so slowly.

[ungulateman]

The fact that the goblins weren't "hitting" him before he could try to dodge would be at least part of the problem here methinks.

[Gearheart]

Genesis mod (Among others) has a workshop which trains dodging, which is probably the most elegant solution until the combat is further refined.

Since blocking with a shield seems to take priority over parrying, and then parrying over dodging, soldiers do very little dodging at the moment.

[Ubiq]

The fact that the goblins are missing a lot probably has something to do with it. They're not missing because he's dodging, but because they're swinging wildly. If so, he doesn't have to dodge. The armor probably takes a role as well. Did your dwarf increase his Shield/Armor level during that?

Try making them Adequate Speargoblins and see what happens.

[slothen]

regardless of goblin skill, 3 exp per dodge is ridiculously low.

[krenshala]

I want to say my noob speardwarf had 3xp after stabbing an elven swordsman for the first time.  He didn't have any training as the elves showed up just about the time I was looking for a place to build a barracks (had 4 soldiers, 3 active, 1 possessed, at the time).  I thought it was a bit odd he only gained 3xp from stabbing an elf in the leg and breaking the femur, but I forgot to see how many xp he had earned after he helped kill 6 elves (lots and lots of pokey-stabby goodness from steel spear and shield armed recruits).