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[Digital Hellhound]

Your... I... hnngh? H...how? How on earth did your infamy get that high?

Releasing vassals reduces infamy, but just one point per vassal. There are advisors who reduce infamy as well. Use the Commission Painting decision to get your cultural tradition up and then hire one of those.

EDIT: I mean seriously, how? Were you taking as much infamy as possible on purpose?

[Taricus]

EUIII complete, no expansions after In nomine, So I don't think he has that option...

[MetalSlimeHunt]

If you're up to 96 infamy, there really isn't any way for you to get it down to safe any time soon. The point of no return has been crossed. You only have one option left. You must wage war against everyone else before they can wage war on you.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I mean seriously, how? Were you taking as much infamy as possible on purpose?

Completely annexing Northern France and all of the Netherlands in the timeframe of 16 years may have had something to do with it. I was in a big rush to grab the Empire title. Didn't help me much in the end, did it?

May just leave Normandy to its own devices and wait for the Infamy to cool down before playing it again. After all, the nation of Athens is begging for the rebuilding of Greece. I like the idea, not too much infamy in the way, not to forget that the Ottomons are currently occupied with the Mamlukes, Turmids, Persia, Iraq, and a whole bunch of other Middle Eastern Nations. Impressive amount of enemies its made for it self.

[Virex]

If you're up to 96 infamy, there really isn't any way for you to get it down to safe any time soon. The point of no return has been crossed. You only have one option left. You must wage war against everyone else before they can wage war on you.

Mod in the Norse religion and go on a holy crusade of bloodshed to restore the supremacy of the Vikings!

[Ampersand]

The only way you can deal with it at that point is, pump out more soldiers, and wait for the inevitable war of all against one.

[Hyo]

Thankfully, it's IN. IN has no ugly infamy events. Just keep pumping out the soldiers and declare war on everything - it's too late now, it's now World Conquest or nothing.

[Demonic Spoon]

Indeed. I was up to about 700 infamy at the end of my game. Good times.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I am now througly convinced the game is cheating.

I was playing as Athens, and I declared war on the Ottomans, because a quest required I get it from them. The reward was a core in that territory, which is pretty fuc*ing important given that I only had one province with a core in it at the time.

So I seige the territory I needed to, hopefully thinking I could also grab a second province before I ended the war. Then the Ottomans armies came, and it basically brought all its armies. Strange, given that they were fighting a big war in the east. But the real bullshit was to come.
When we engaged in combat, my military leader with four shock points always got very high rolls during the Fire phase, which is completely worthless at this point in the game given that Gunpowder isn't being used in armies at this time. And during the shock phases, I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS got zeros! Its not even funny! I was losing hundreds of soldiers while he got off with only a few dozen! He also attacked my capital. This is bullshit because all his armies were heading toward my seige eariler, then one army changes direction and gets to my capital in half the time!

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME THIS WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!

[Zrk2]

Just installed EU3, starting my obligatory 'WTF AM I DOING' LP right now. This will be great.

[mainiac]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME THIS WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!

Bad luck.  It's a simple matter of probabilities.  As a minor nation, two consecutive bad rolls are bad enough to wipe you out.  Leaders dont protect you as having the leadership advantage gives you a boost to offense, not defense.  So the odds are pretty good that if you fight enough battles as a minor, you are going to get shafted badly a good portion of the time if you engage in too many fair fights.

As a minor, your only hope is to engage the enemy when they are almost helpless.  If you need to fight a large army, then you are basically limited to doing it on hilly terrain across a strait or river where the terrain will render your opponents army nearly harmless.  But as a minor, you need to fight as little as possible.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I had cheated a tiny bit and got myself a 12,000 merc army.

Explain how that is destoried.

[Hyo]

While Mercs in DW have an added bonus that they get free manpower, they also have an exceptionally lower morale regeneration which acts as a very steep bell-curve, at around 2/3 being generally the highest you can, and are willing to go. It's almost impossible to get these soldiers to full-morale unless you keep them for years, which is totally missing the point about mercenaries.

Basically, Mercs aren't really the most reliable army. If you're a minor and you have the gold, of course, the unlimited MP is surely the way to go, but don't ever expect Merc armies to be actually good at what they're doing.


Besides, the AI going to your capital is not cheating. It's not like it moved there instantaneously. It's the same thing any decent human would've done, so why not an Ai?

[Johnfalcon99977]

Besides, the AI going to your capital is not cheating. It's not like it moved there instantaneously. It's the same thing any decent human would've done, so why not an Ai?

You don't understand. I saw that army walking towards the territory my army was in, change directions, and get to my capital in half the time it would've taken one of my armies to get their.

And yes, bad luck is believable for the second or third zero, but after the seventh zero in a row, its starts to get a bit "curious". There is a one out of ten chance I would get a zero. You almost never get that much bad luck.

[Hyo]

What, it's still possible. 0.1^7 is still not 0 after all.

In any case, the difference in travel time would either be because the travel length is shorter: i.e. the province your enemy is in is closer to your capital than your armies are, and the opposing general's stats. Probably a mix of both, really.