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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2010, 07:00:49 am »

I've started a new Japan and have decided to make a proper AAR out of it, complete with screenshots and all. So, this is my new Japan, planning on WC by 1821, beginning at 1399 of course.

So, first of all, a few reasons why one should go Japan:
-It's in Asia, free from all the political battles and headaches from Europe
-It's religion, Shinto is unique to Japan, meaning that Unam Sanctum and early expansion can make killing anything a whole lot easier.
-It's an island country, at the same time, is fairly large; large England, meaning that it's rather a safe country to play with, since enemies will rarely succeed be able to land on your shores as long as your navy is strong.

Some problems I would face:
-Since it's an island countries, it can't do cultural shifts (As far as I know) without moving the capital
-It's religion, Shinto, gives a -20% tax modifier, which hurts; though better than Confucianism
-It's bordering Ming, which can be such a pain, and will have to deal with it sooner or later
-It starts in the eastern tech group, meaning that its units will grow to be useless at tech 38+, and that it needs to westernize three times before getting full research capabilities.

In any case, Japan is a safe country to play with, that is relatively minor in the beginning, but easy to grow into a powerhouse.


So.. let's begin.

10/1399- I've started the first day managements, and used my three diplomats to gain military access to Tibet, Manchu, and Korea. Well, Korea wasn't necessary but just to be safe I added it in there. The purpose of this was to prepare for my eventual war against Ming. I intend to extend my influence in SE Asia and in the seas, and expect to fight Ming within 50 years. And as everyone knows, fighting Ming straight on is never a smart move.

In the meantime, I really love my new advisors- a 4 star statesman and a 3 star treasurer; and I've got another 3 star statesman just waiting for me to trade Ashikaga out for him. As for the other stuff, a slider towards Centralization, kill off the annoying revolt, and a government change to Despotic Monarchy.



12/1399- It's december now, and I've finally got another diplomat. I declared war on Ryuku like I always do; and it always turns out that if I don't declare war on it first, it declares war on me, which can be pretry minor, but pretty annoying and/or fatal; especially if I'm fighting Ming or something. That and to juice some war taxes out of it.

10/1400- Ryuku siege completed; however, I'm going to milk some war taxes on it so going to wait till January

1/1401- January and time to make peace with Ryuku. However, I'm suddenly in conflict with myself- though I've annexed Ryuku many times, Okinawa now that I look at it isn't such a tempting province; I needs to spend a missionary on it, and it's base tax is 2; which is rather poor. I don't want to take any burdens on with me, because I need to get to westernization as fast as possible, and I'm afraid getting Okinawa will slow me down by a few months.




So I have three choices:

A) Annex Ryuku and play it normally; not like it would hurt that much - besides, you'll need to conquer sooner or later for WC so might as well do it now.
B) Vassalize Ryuku; then you still get money off of it, and can conquer it later for a prestige hit.
C) Leave Ryuku for now, milk war taxes from it, and go kill a few other Muslim nations.

Any suggestions?
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2010, 09:03:17 am »

Vassalization sounds like a good idea.
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2010, 10:41:45 am »

EU3, Holy Roman Empire, 1683.
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I think I'm winning.
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2010, 11:42:36 am »

So what all does Stainless Steel do? I've been looking for M2TW mods. It looks like it expands the map a litte bit east, but does it add more regions? Change balance?
It basically expands everything.(Aside from stuff like diplomacy, but diplomacy is for weak rulers)

More units, nations and provinces, improved battle and campaign AI and various stuffs. The AI, by the way, is amazing. On the campaign map the change might not be as noticeable, but on the campaign map it makes the game awesome. Each game is actually different, rather than a few nations being destined to be awesome for a while then having constant stalemate wars while the player rolls up the world, each game(usually) different nations will often expand into huge empires that give the player real challenge. At end-game you'll usually see 4 or 5 big empires, including the players controlling the whole map. One guy even got caught between 2 massive English and Moorish empires as the Byzantium.
Oh, and it's much more difficult. The difficulty improves with every version. With 6.3 I think it's something like very easy is normal, normal is very hard and very hard is fcking insane.

Older, but still relevant post. Check out the features spoiler on the 6.1 post.
Release post for the latest semi-major release.
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2010, 11:48:00 am »

I think I'm winning.

Well, at least in Europe. You're way too big for your own good to attempt any decent WC though.

Is that HTtT, or IN? MM?
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2010, 11:59:17 am »

HttT. And it's not like infamy is going to change anything, it's currently ~170.
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« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2010, 09:31:33 pm »

TIME TO DECLARE WAR ON MING HAS COME....!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Or yeah. I'm just being suicidal and maniacal.

So this is the news:

1/1401 - I have decided to vassalize Ryuku; however, have stuck with leaving it as it is now, to milk war taxes from it as much as possible.

3/1401 - War on Brunei which is neither guaranteed nor allied to anyone. My forces quickly rip Brunei apart, however, the guerilla war that I'm forced to fight and the long siege pushes the battle for a year.

3/1402 - The siege of Brunei has been completed and finished taking care of those pests. Now that I think about it, I think I could've gotten enough war score by having had conquered the other provinces... Ah well. Not like I care all too much, so I give Brunei first place on my Happy Vassal's Club. Hooray!

5/1402 - And being the warmonger I am, I move straight onto Malacca. Now Malacca is a special case as I intend to finish it off in two wars; one to conquer three of its territories and one to annex it. Why is Malacca so special you may ask? No reason; except it's tasty, tasty CoT.

9/1403 - And unsurprisingly, Malacca falls in little less than a year. And it cost me quite a bit too. Malacca wasn't that powerful, but Aceh suddenly storming me with its 7,000 army surprised me a little. However, it performed atrociously against my 6,000 army... And because their general sucked, while mine was pretty awesome. Did I mention that Gokomatsu is a 4 shock general? Awesome~ (Especially considering his military's only 4, or so I remember)

11/1403 - Defended from a few more Aceh attacks and now war on Malakassar. I've had a rebel sprout up, and it was really annoying. Ugh, seriously. A 4k rebel army hurts this early on. In any case, I quickly go and strike Malacca again, for the remaining capital, so that I may now conquer it.

4/1404 - Ugh, I forgot why IN is so annoying; there are so many bad events. In any case, I got a choice between a -500 trade tech and -1stab/-1merchant. I toke the stab/merchant hit because I can recover stab within 3~4 years, and because the trade tech hit would be fatal towards westernization and annoying.

9/1404 - Malacca is now annexed. Finally, now to embark upon the long, long journey of conquering Aceh... (Which is made especially painful by the fact that most of Aceh is TI, meaning that it's going to take a long, long time.)

7/1405 - Vassalized Ryuku, since the 5 year limit was coming up soon.

1/1406 - Did I mention the game hates me? Other than having had two rebel armies popping up during the last month, I've also just had *another* bad event; apparently rebel uprising in Malacca. Sadly, I chose the negotiations which not only cost me 30 ducats but a negative tax modifier, which hurts. I simply couldn't afford to have a 6k rebel suddenly pop up while my army was too busy conquering Aceh. The WE from that would've been unbearable- and due to constant war taxes, it's now around 5.6. (My ruler, Gokomatsu, is only capable of -0.08/month, so it's a base of +0.02 per month plus battle WE and attrition)

1/1407 - Other than another rebel army that popped up (Geez, is it just me or are there an awful lot of rebels...) a special case (and a very *delightful* special case) has occurred- MING HAS ENTERED A TIME OF TROUBLES!!!~

As all of you know, that is *such* a pain in the ass event, and screws you up pretty badly. Well, no fear, because I intend to screw Ming up even more badly. In all seriousness though, this is a big bonus for me, because it means that Ming is going to go down that much faster. As soon as I finish this conquest of Aceh and I get my 1st NI (Which is coming up in 1411, thanks to the lucky statesman I had gotten myself) I plan on going to war with Ming right away. This, folks, will be facing war with Ming even before 1420 hits, everyone. And if I manage to screw Ming up using this, I'd be setting up a record.

However, this is all not goody fun, though. Ming currently has a larger navy than me, and even if I do build it up, it's only going to be even and there's a chance that Ming will break through and screw me over. My only hope is that my precious will come to my rescue with their fleets of ships, therefore turning the tide in my favour.



2/1407- I never noticed this, but Brunei finally conquered Malkassar for me. Wow, that took a long time, and Malkassar's right beside them dammit. I annex Malkassar right away- the reason I am doing this is because Malkassar has a whooping base tax of 11. Now, the only problem here is its religion... which is Sunni. Did I ever mention I hate it? It's missionary chance reduction is painful and annoying. It's one of the reasons that I had never bothered to annex Malacca or Malkassar in my previous games.

3/1407 - And this years old conflict between Aceh and me is finally over... And I drained Aceh of its treasury, dammit! In any case, Aceh's been ravaged by 10+ WE, and been rather screwed up lately... I feel bad now. In any case, I've given Aceh an invitation to join my Happy Vassal's Club which it happily accepted... Well, hey, it didn't refuse at least~ Now to finally take care of all those rebels...

10/1407 - Wait, wut? Rebels in Ezochi... Oh shi- I forgot to send a missionary there at the beginning of the game. In any case, it's the bloody tax revolters. I wish it's be religious revolters so that I could've simply stopped it with much problem, but no, it just *had* to give me a tax reduction.

7/1409 - King died admist of combat, stability drop. However, I'm satisfied, since my new one has an ADM skill of 7 (!), MIL of 5. The DIP is rather low, at 3; but like I care. I rolled for a general 2 Maneuver, 2 Fire, 2 Shock, no siege sadly. Hooray for this lucky roll, I'm so happy! *sniff*

In any case, sorry I couldn't get a screenshot of at least this, because I'm not used to this whole AAR and LP thing. I really need to remember to press F11 everytime something major comes up.

9/1409 - It's been a few years of rebel stomping. In the mean time, Aceh is now my vassal, and Malacca is now also Aceh's. I've given away those annoying pieces of land to Aceh, because I'm too lazy to deal with the revolts myself.

Now then... it's a new future opening up for me and I am currently going to do wait a few more years to burn off some WE, BB, build a larger navy and wait for Unam Sanctum in 1411.

The problem is... What will I do once I hit 1411? I have a few choices right now

A) Kill MING
B) Declare war on Indochina
C) Do nothing




First of all for A), Ming has a larger navy than me (for now) since I haven't been building ships lately. Also, it's still suffering quite a bit, and it's getting practically zero income in its provinces- for tax at least, due to Times of Troubles. It's army is still fairly large, at 88k, is nothing to underestimate. However, as we all know oh so well, Malacca WC AAR, courtesy of Rastar - Ming AI is a pushover and overly easy to slaughter through attrition. A few more problems in that - can I support a long-term war with Ming? If I'm not careful, WE will kill *me* instead.

B) This is a much safer way. I can declare on Pegu to get me in a bunch of wars and vassalize them. This will potentially give me more money to work with both through the treasury and prolonged war taxes. At a first glance, this is much better than directly confronting Ming. However, the downside to this is that I do not know when Times of Troubles will end and that I need to strike at it as fast as possible or else I'm going to lose the huge advantage I will need to take on Ming.

C) I *hate* this option. I really, really hate it. However a few good things come off of this - it burns of WE and BB, WE especially since I'm not thinking that it's not going to hit 0 by 5/1411 (Currently, 6, which is fairly high).  And I can turn off army modifiers which will help me save up gold without getting WE through gold taxes like A) or B). However, very little can be achieved here and my warmongering spirit tells me to not take this unless I'm desperate for something.
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2010, 09:40:40 pm »

I recommend making your own LP thread. It's a good start to an LP, but this thread is for empire showmanship, not empire building.
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2010, 10:34:42 pm »

I apologize. Should I copy my previous posts over there, or just continue on from the new thread?
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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2010, 10:55:04 pm »

I'd suggest copying for completeness.  That way it's all in one place.
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« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2010, 06:39:07 pm »

This is my Russian Empire in Victoria 2.  I conquered most of the eastern world and a great deal of the west.

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The European powers were defeated one by one in wars of Russian aggression in the name of territorial expansion.  Leaving civilized diplomacy to the dogs of war, Russia grew in size every year as it added more and more territories to its list.

Sweden was the first, losing most of its territory when the Russians invaded in 1837.  Norway was released as a Russian puppet state, giving Russia further access to the Atlantic.  Several Balkan states gained their 'independence' during the territorial wars with the Ottoman Empire.  They may be self-governing, but they are part of the Empire and any dissent from them will result in an immediate and forceful reprisal.

Austria, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, all fell before the Tzar's invincible armies.  The Russsian appetite for land turned elsewhere.

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The Empire now possesses the entirety of the Middle East, as well as most of mainland Asia.  While Britain retains control over the southern half of India, it lost the north during a failed war to contain Russia.  By the time Britain attempted this, Russia's military had grown too powerful for any one nation to stop.  The uncivilized states of Asia put up no effective resistance.  Japan, alas, remains unconquered, but it's only a matter of time, really.

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A quick war with the Netherlands saw the acquisition of Russian Indonesia, while colonization netted the Kenya and Somalia regions.  Alaska, Oregon, Washington and Idaho each belong to the Empire.

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Life as a Russian citizen is not too bad, but the revolution is due any day now.  There are over a billion people in Russia and very few of them are ethnically Russian.  Most are Chinese, in fact.  I expect the Americans are involved in the unrest, since I have to keep sending Secret Police to their subversive newspaper operations.

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Russia does have very, very high infamy.  2041.61 out of 25, to be precise.  I completely gave up caring about Infamy about ten years into the game timeline when I 'liberated' a good chunk of the Balkans with impunity.  Britain tried to contain me for my absurd expansion, twice, and got defeated both times, losing much of India in the process (their Influence in Asia went with it).

I'm in the process of waging my 15th 16th war of humiliation, which is a pretext of a war goal to break a truce with China and conquer them for less prestige loss.  Soon I will conquer Spain, France, Japan, and the Netherlands, but I have to wait for a future patch, because FPS has gotten pretty awful.  The lag on the military screen is particularly atrocious.

Up until this point, though, it's been a blast.  It's fun to be the villain of the world!  When you have a powerful enough military, Infamy doesn't matter.
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2010, 06:51:00 pm »

Dang Seth, that's a huge empire. I'm wondering what your release nations list must look like. Any weird ones?
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2010, 07:39:44 pm »


Finally finished my Hessia game, was good fun... don't really feel like writing anything about it atm though. :P
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Re: The Show off your Empires Thread
« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2010, 04:04:40 pm »

wtf Ryazan?
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« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2010, 10:19:16 pm »

 ???

wtf Ryazan?

 ??? My thoughts exactly  ???
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