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V-Norrec

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.31.14, is it worth it?
« on: September 23, 2010, 07:51:07 pm »
I have a pretty decent fort going right now in .31.12 and I was wondering if it was worth it to upgrade to .14 or should I just stick to .12?  I'm mostly concerned about world stability, sprawl, and whether hospitals got fixed.
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Re: .31.14, is it worth it?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 07:52:41 pm »
Sprawl is way down and I've had no stability problems. Can't vouch for the hospitals though. Couldn't get them working in .12, haven't played enough in .14.
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Re: .31.14, is it worth it?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 07:55:24 pm »
It's fine. Just no utilities yet.
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Re: .31.14, is it worth it?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 07:57:19 pm »
Quote from: Urist Imiknorris on September 23, 2010, 07:55:24 pm
It's fine. Just no utilities yet.

Though since its mostly bugfixes, I don't expect .14 compatible versions to take too long. .14 didn't change any core mechanics like .13 did. (I.e. world gen et al)
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 07:59:47 pm »
Any idea about the hospitals?  I'd really like to get my brewer back to brewing booze and not sitting around on his duff in the hospital all day.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 08:39:49 pm »
I don't believe hospitals were touched in any way according to the release notes, but I haven't had any problems (that were gamebreaking) in my hospitals in .12.  What's wrong with your brewer/hospital staff?
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 08:50:33 pm »
Quote from: Arekis on September 23, 2010, 08:39:49 pm
I don't believe hospitals were touched in any way according to the release notes, but I haven't had any problems (that were gamebreaking) in my hospitals in .12.  What's wrong with your brewer/hospital staff?

Doctors aren't able to fill a bucket to apply a cast.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 08:54:41 pm »
Yeah, that's a known bug with some really rough workarounds.  My recommendation is get rid of all the gypsum powder you own (or forbid it) and just use splints.  I believe splints can do almost everything a cast can except for something like a colossal all-body compound fracture.  I've been using splints exclusively in my last few forts with no powder and have yet to have one dwarf get stuck in the hospital.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 09:19:09 pm »
Thank god, I finally got him back to brewing my high quality booze.  I'm getting rid of all gypsum from now on.  Thanks for that.  It was a left leg wound and he had been lying there for a season when I saved and determined to think of a way to get him back.  I was running desperately low on high quality booze there too.

Edit:  I guess I'll update after this fort, just to be on the safe side, I really like this fort, lots of steel production makes me happy.
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Re: .31.14, is it worth it?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 09:22:55 pm »
Ya to keep hospitals from becomeing useless, dont make soap or gypsum. Without those 2 things they manage to work rather well.

Im sticking with .13 as it seems most of the fixes (besides the immigrant one which i dont really mind) effect world gen which doesnt matter if u have a fort u enjoy started... that and theirs no graphics packs out for .14 yet
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010, 09:34:34 pm »
Looks like DT is updated, but not IronHand or Pheobus (I use the latter). ;)
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 09:37:13 pm »
Quote from: shibdib on September 23, 2010, 09:22:55 pm
Ya to keep hospitals from becomeing useless, dont make soap or gypsum.

I'd keep soap around since it helps fight infections.  You actually don't need a lot of it, like one or two bars.  1 bar provides 150 units of soap or something which takes a while to use up and if you have some bags/coffers in your hospital, it will be stored there and wont cause the "cleaning self" spam.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 10:06:38 pm »
Quote from: Arekis on September 23, 2010, 09:37:13 pm
Quote from: shibdib on September 23, 2010, 09:22:55 pm
Ya to keep hospitals from becomeing useless, dont make soap or gypsum.

I'd keep soap around since it helps fight infections.  You actually don't need a lot of it, like one or two bars.  1 bar provides 150 units of soap or something which takes a while to use up and if you have some bags/coffers in your hospital, it will be stored there and wont cause the "cleaning self" spam.
Two or three rock coffers (or wooden chests) go a long way to making the hospital work better ... but cabinets don't do squat, as I learned the hard way.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 10:36:17 pm »
Well that was really surprisingly quick! DT the same day?  Time for tinkering :)
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2010, 10:56:27 pm »
Quote from: Arekis on September 23, 2010, 09:37:13 pm
Quote from: shibdib on September 23, 2010, 09:22:55 pm
Ya to keep hospitals from becomeing useless, dont make soap or gypsum.

I'd keep soap around since it helps fight infections.  You actually don't need a lot of it, like one or two bars.  1 bar provides 150 units of soap or something which takes a while to use up and if you have some bags/coffers in your hospital, it will be stored there and wont cause the "cleaning self" spam.

they dont take it from the hospital? wasnt aware, disregard my soap comment then
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