That seems to be your playstyle. Going through other games, you seem to hammer away at some random person, not listen to them, and just keeping shouting OMG YOU SUCK at them until they stop playing out of the futility of arguing with you, or are lynched. You can argue that any lynch is better than no lynch, but going blinkers on straight for the first person you pick out of a hat, ignoring any of their arguments, until either you or they are killed, rather defeats the point that we're supposed to be catching scum.
That's why I didn't vote for you, even though you piss me off, because that's not enough of a reason to seriously shout you out as scum. Well, unless you're being so aggressive to shift attention away from you, or to make it look like you're doing some quality scum-hunting.
The person who really acts scum to me is USEC, with his insane ramblings and shouting of 'SHOOT ME' like some 80s action hero who's been cloned. But, of course, since every possible argument against him has already been used by others, and he hasn't responded adequately to any of them. And if I vote for him now, you'll shout 'bandwagon' at me.
If you had a decent argument, I certainly wouldn't.
Seeing as you don't seem to feel the need to produce one, do ANY SCUMHUNTING AT ALL, etc., you've warranted an FoS. But hey, feel free to not read the thread, not see why JetSquirrel is scummy, etc. You can defend him all you want, it's not my problem. Not right now, anyway. Also: You have time to go through other games but you can't SCUMHUNT IN THIS ONE? Come on now. You whine about my scumhunting, claiming that it's purposeless, and then you refuse to scumhunt at all yourself. You worry about what I think about you, you're -
I wasn't defending JetSquirrel, and don't act like I was. I know damn well why JetSquirrel seems scummy, it's because he can't come up with his own arguments.
As for not scumhunting in this game, but going through others, how much time do you think I have had? This game has been going for a couple of days now, but I've had much, much longer to go through other games to see how people play. Scumhunting in this game, however, takes second fiddle to College, which started just last week for me.
I'm not concerned about your personal crap. I accept personal reasons, because that's just kind of a nice thing to do and I'm not a complete douche when I'm playing Mafia.
What I don't accept is people saying they have no time and then coming up with crap that takes time to generate. You do, however, have a point; general meta is generally acceptable. This argument ends in your favor.
Oh, huh. That's interesting.
You ARE suspicious of the easy, obvious target, but you can't be bothered to vote for him, because...? Because you're afraid of me.
Ahahaha.
Seriously?
You think I'm afraid of you, and that being so makes me not vote for other people? That argument makes no logical sense.
See later.
TBM: He got himself shot to death by me and Aqizzar. Then Aqizzar shot me and rode into the sunset.
Aside from that, let's have a good game everyone, and I Day One Vote Spade. Because shovels are best.
This is a random vote. There's not much to say about it alone, but...
TBM: He got himself shot to death by me and Aqizzar. Then Aqizzar shot me and rode into the sunset.
Did Aqizzar jump in near the end, or was he quicker on the draw than that?
Just as all seemed won, just as I could taste that sweet cool beer, he done shot me in the face.
(He was the last Mafia of three players, and I got Ein lynched.)
Nope, but I wasn't speaking for him, since I'm not him.
Nothing about Spades. Nothing about scumhunting. Nothing about anything.
You're right, no random spurts of aggression, charging for Spades based on my random vote which had little reason for existing. That's not the way I play.
So you don't scumhunt? Do I have to remind you people to
check the scumhunting guide? That's my reference, and it sure as hell paints you as scum.
FoS: Sir Bayer. You're being really overaggressive for a newbie game, treating any slip up, which really should be expected, as a massive scumtell. Not even as just a possible scum tell, but jumping on it and waving it the air as proof. I think you're being this aggressive to hide your own scuminess, but have overcompensated.
Also, Unvote Spade.
Also Also, don't edit, Jetsquirrel.
When you unvote Spades, you don't mention why. You don't question him. You don't chase him. You don't seem to feel the need.
Because this was me getting rid of the random, baseless vote.
THEN WHY PUT IT DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE? You're trying to look like you're RVSing, but you're NOT!
You don't even have the guts to vote me then. You don't have the guts to vote me now. Why is that?
Because Over-Aggressiveness =/= Scumminess. Though the amount you're doing this game seems over the top, even for you.[/quote]
Really? That's not what you said later. Again, as before, see later.
Yes, I know that, USEC, stop badgering people to vote when they don't have a decent case yet.
You KNOW you don't have a case. Why do you think that's acceptable? You can always fall back on RVS, if you need to, it's early enough in the game. But you don't feel the need to. Why is that?
I said decent case. I'm not going to put one up when it's half-done and still has a few grey areas. By the time I did have a good one, everybody else had, between them, made all of the arguments I was going to.
What a crying shame. A half-baked case is better than none, because none tells me that this is an excuse. But again, see later - you didn't do it because you were afraid I would attack you.
Hey everybody, this is the scum.
Why? Feels the need to completely ignore everything I say.
Good heavens.
Hey everybody, this is the scum.
Why? Acts patronizingly to everyone, and as those his words are FACT.
Good heavens.
You might be one of the more experienced players here, but you're not a mafia god, and your acting as though you are is starting to piss me off.
You STILL don't have the guts to vote me. Only to insult me from a safe distance. Don't want to be too closely associated? Don't want to be seen as buddying, but don't want to be seen as passive?
No, just tired of your self-assertion over everyone.
Really now? Not what you said - yet again, move on to see the conclusion to this.
That seems to be your playstyle. Going through other games, you seem to hammer away at some random person, not listen to them, and just keeping shouting OMG YOU SUCK at them until they stop playing out of the futility of arguing with you, or are lynched. You can argue that any lynch is better than no lynch, but going blinkers on straight for the first person you pick out of a hat, ignoring any of their arguments, until either you or they are killed, rather defeats the point that we're supposed to be catching scum.
That's why I didn't vote for you, even though you piss me off, because that's not enough of a reason to seriously shout you out as scum. Well, unless you're being so aggressive to shift attention away from you, or to make it look like you're doing some quality scum-hunting.
The person who really acts scum to me is USEC, with his insane ramblings and shouting of 'SHOOT ME' like some 80s action hero who's been cloned. But, of course, since every possible argument against him has already been used by others, and he hasn't responded adequately to any of them. And if I vote for him now, you'll shout 'bandwagon' at me.
And of course, here, you're so worried about appearances. "What does Bayer think of me? I won't vote anybody because I'm afraid of what Bayer thinks of me!" Well then, scumbucket, you know what I think of you - you're scum.
Again, your logic makes no sense here. Why would being afraid of your opinion, which I give jack about, stop me voting for other people?
The bold is right there. You can't erase a scumslip. You were worried that I would come after you. The
only reason to be worried enough about another person's opinion to not vote or to change your behavior is if you're scum. Thus, you're
scum. You said it yourself - not in the same words, but
you were afraid of being attacked. Not necessarily by me, but you just didn't want the attention that putting your vote down would bring.
So here are the basic questions: Why are you so afraid of what I think of you? Why are you letting that affect your playstyle? Why do you feel the need to choose me as a target to fight, instead of hunting after who you yourself said you think is scum? Why do you think that's acceptable at all?
1: I'm not. Really, get over yourself.
2: See answer 1.
3: Because, originally, I was tired of your attitude. But yes, your arguments have told me something.
4: What makes being cautious so unacceptable to you? Yes, I don't want to get lynched, nobody does. But being randomly over-aggressive doesn't help anyone.
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1. See the above. You're being ridiculously scummy.
2. Blah blah blah same story
3. You're "tired of my attitude"? Cry me a river of tears, this is Mafia.
4. Cautiousness is a
scumtell, you fool! Cautiousness is the HALLMARK of scum. What better way to avoid attention? You don't want to be associated with the lynch at the end of the day, do you? Well then, best not be there when the lynch comes.
What better way not to be there then to never have voted at all?
You want a vote, with a reason?
Sir Bayer. For being so over the top aggressive in a newby game, trying to shift attention onto whatever person you choose, trying to make it seem as though you're being a pro-active townie when really you're just trying to scare the newbies into either inactivity or voting with you, so you and your scummy pall can pull an easy win.
So you choose to end this argument with an
OMGUS vote, of all things? "Your arguments tell me enough!"
You know what tells me enough? Your reaction. You ARE afraid of being lynched. You said that, too. "I don't want to get lynched, nobody does." That doesn't matter to a town player. A town player is more valuable in death. You know that. This isn't your first game of Mafia. You're just scum.
SirBayer, I think in a beginning mafia game you're playing a bit hardline- you're the most experienced player; accusing every one every which way doesn't help town if it just makes people distrust and question your motives. Because if people distrust you, you will get you lynched, which means we're losing a scum hunter of some merit- provided you aren't scum of course; considering the level of playing field this is, you could just as well be scum- though if you weren't I'd imagine scum would have you in their sights.
SirBayer:Though you have an aggressive play-style, why do you focus so much on one person in each of your posts, why not ask questions to more then just one person?
I more or less subscribe to the Toony theory of Mafia - you pick a target, you attack him until you
know what he is, and then you move on. Whether I realize this by breaking a player town or mafia or by killing him, it makes very little difference to me.
Honestly, I don't have the presence of mind to make two arguments
worth making at the same time. I therefore choose to, instead of wasting my time with multi-tasking, hit one target (suspicious or not -
see the scumhunting guide), and drag that target across the coals until I'm sure what that player is. End of story. Thus my aggressive, single-target hunting.
WEBADICT: In, Webadict, In! I need another good scumhunter.
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