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[Urist Imiknorris]

Actually that data came about as a side effect of my attempt to make slade warhammers, and a claim posted by someone saying that slade couldn't be moved (it could). I wondered just how heavy that lump of rock was, and from there how big it was. I just wanted a mental image for humor value. This message took longer to type than that number took to figure out.

[Passive Fist]

... Dwarfs are crazy.

So of all the things you can do in DF, it's the fractal artifacts that make you think dwarves are crazy.

Never mind the magma falls, the atom smashers, the cog-and-axle turing-complete computers, or the colonizing of Hell itself... all those are fine, but man, those recursive artifacts! Where do they get such ideas?

I feel the need to address this post!

All that stuff you mentioned is directed by the player, reflecting the player's state of mind. Things like artifacts, engravings, and decorations are purely products of the dwarfs, and that's why I said dwarfs are crazy.

[Biag]

I just got sigged by two people, from the same comment, in two different ways, and one of them took a bit of effort to figure out. I feel highly accomplished.

Also, I think we should stop talking about all these gold ingots and recursive universes and focus on the real problem: Urist Imiknorris is an evil supercomputer.

(Actually, let's not stop talking about the recursive universes. It's kind of interesting in a weird way. Reminds me of Ursula Vernon's Gearworld for some reason.)

[Xenos]

hmmm...the supercomputerness explains everything....i assume he is a supercomputer constructed of pumps, running firefox, playing dwarf fortress and BLOWING UP MY BRAIN! >_>

[ZhangC1459]

... Dwarfs are crazy.

So of all the things you can do in DF, it's the fractal artifacts that make you think dwarves are crazy.

Never mind the magma falls, the atom smashers, the cog-and-axle turing-complete computers, or the colonizing of Hell itself... all those are fine, but man, those recursive artifacts! Where do they get such ideas?

I feel the need to address this post!

All that stuff you mentioned is directed by the player, reflecting the player's state of mind. Things like artifacts, engravings, and decorations are purely products of the dwarfs, and that's why I said dwarfs are crazy.

Oh.  Well in that case, how about the fact that a well-designed waterfall can offset the death of everyone a dwarf loves in terms of mood?

[Xenos]

not true...i have seen plenty of dwarfs go berserk surrounded by the mist of a 2x2 waterfall...

[ZhangC1459]

not true...i have seen plenty of dwarfs go berserk surrounded by the mist of a 2x2 waterfall...

And I've seen the opposite.  I suppose it depends on their personality.

God, i love this game

[Samuel]

Also, I think we should stop talking about all these gold ingots and recursive universes and focus on the real problem: Urist Imiknorris is an evil supercomputer.

Yes, but he is most likely just a simulation being run on a larger supercomputer which is being simulated by a larger supercomputer. which is simulated.

I like recursion. It's fun.

[sockless]

Yes I am. I'm assuming all boulders are the same volume.

Test: Native gold

[SOLID_DENSITY:19320]

Listed mass (1 gold nugget): 1352 kg

    1352 kg
------------------ =0.06997929 m³ = 69.97929 L
  19320 kg/m³

YOU CANNOT BEST MY SCIENCE.

Yes, I can.  I best your science with common sense.  Why does a "gold nugget" have almost 17 times the mass of an average human male?

Clearly your units are way off.

Because you dig up all the other crap (stone) that comes with it. You don't just dig up a 70L nugget.

[ZhangC1459]

Yes I am. I'm assuming all boulders are the same volume.

Test: Native gold

[SOLID_DENSITY:19320]

Listed mass (1 gold nugget): 1352 kg

    1352 kg
------------------ =0.06997929 m³ = 69.97929 L
  19320 kg/m³

YOU CANNOT BEST MY SCIENCE.

Yes, I can.  I best your science with common sense.  Why does a "gold nugget" have almost 17 times the mass of an average human male?

Clearly your units are way off.

Because you dig up all the other crap (stone) that comes with it. You don't just dig up a 70L nugget.

No, because then the density is different.

It's actually a giant fucking chunk of gold. 

[Urist Imiknorris]

Also, I think we should stop talking about all these gold ingots and recursive universes and focus on the real problem: Urist Imiknorris is an evil supercomputer.

You can prove nothing except that I'm sigging this.

<mass/density=volume>

Yes, I can.  I best your science with common sense.  Why does a "gold nugget" have almost 17 times the mass of an average human male?

Clearly your units are way off.

Because you dig up all the other crap (stone) that comes with it. You don't just dig up a 70L nugget.

No, because then the density is different.

It's actually a giant fucking chunk of gold. 

It's a chunk of gold big enough to build a wall out of. It produces enough gold to make a statue.

[Lemunde]

Well if you don't like it, it's a decal. You can scrape it off.

[krenshala]

Yes I am. I'm assuming all boulders are the same volume.

Test: Native gold

[SOLID_DENSITY:19320]

Listed mass (1 gold nugget): 1352 kg

    1352 kg
------------------ =0.06997929 m³ = 69.97929 L
  19320 kg/m³

YOU CANNOT BEST MY SCIENCE.

Yes, I can.  I best your science with common sense.  Why does a "gold nugget" have almost 17 times the mass of an average human male?

Clearly your units are way off.

Actually, comparing the raws (0.31.13) to the Wikipedia page for gold ...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[INORGANIC:NATIVE_GOLD]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:native gold][STONE_NAME:gold nuggets][DISPLAY_COLOR:6:7:1][TILE:138]
[ENVIRONMENT:IGNEOUS_ALL:VEIN:100]
[ENVIRONMENT:ALLUVIAL:CLUSTER_SMALL:100]
[ITEM_SYMBOL:'*']
[METAL_ORE:GOLD:100]
[SOLID_DENSITY:19320]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:30]
[IS_STONE]
[MELTING_POINT:11915]
[BOILING_POINT:15141

The raws list the solid_density at 19320 (what he used above) while the wiki shows "Density (near r.t.)     19.30 g·cm−3" ... which is equal to 19300 kg/m³.  Using the listed 19300 kg/m³, the value would come out to be 0.069979296066252587991718426501035 m³ (69.97929 L).

Urist, where did you get the mass from?  Validating that would provide an independent "proof" of your maths.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I checked the weight of a gold nugget ingame. Toady has previously stated that as of 31.01, masses are given in kilograms. I'll try to find the quote.

EDIT:

Actually, the capital gamma (the weight/mass symbol) is a kilogram now, but we are still using the same symbol at this point.

[krenshala]

I checked the weight of a gold nugget ingame.

From the trade window I'm guessing?  I've seen some high numbers for weight the few times I've ended up with raw ore/stone at my trade depot.

Toady has previously stated that as of 31.01, masses are given in kilograms. I'll try to find the quote.

EDIT:

Actually, the capital gamma (the weight/mass symbol) is a kilogram now, but we are still using the same symbol at this point.

So, this just leaves temperature.  The entry of 11915 Urists as the melting point doesn't really line up with the Kelvin, Centigrade or Fahrenheit scales ...