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Re: Civilization V
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2010, 08:12:37 pm »

Ooh, this sounds gooooood.
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Re: Civilization V
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2010, 08:15:18 pm »

Hmmm.... Add another month and a half or so... Theirs the NZ release. Also boost the cost up by about another $20. I might still be interested in getting it when it comes out...
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2010, 08:18:37 pm »

1. I believe razing the city nets you loot/pillage golds and that's it.
2. Installing a puppet government means you gain the income/research etc from the city but you have NO CONTROL over what it builds, the puppet governor controls that. On the upside, you suffer much much less unhappiness by choosing this option.

Oh my fucking God, that is awesome.  I have always, always wanted some option when conquering an opponent's nation beyond just a zero-sum battle for each and every city.  Finally, I can deny him the possession, to my benefit no less, without making myself responsible for the aftermath.

**Why should you care about the unhappiness of a new city? Because happiness is no longer tracked per-city. Happiness is now a global civilization modifier, and you must keep your citizens' happiness balanced with your expansion and military actions else you will face large-scale revolt. Unhappy cities are a large drag on your empire, and this gives you much more incentive to resolve the unhappiness where in Civ 4 if a city was unhappy you could (mostly) safely ignore it until it fixed itself.

This however I'm not so sure about.  The otherwise excellent knock-off Call to Power did the same thing, and I hated it.  You couldn't tailor your policies below the national level, you could only effect the happiness of cities with the stuff built there.  If any one city lacked enough stuff to keep it happy, you had to change the policy of the entire nation until it caught up in development, making founding new cities after the Bronze Age a serious chore.  On top of all the requisite complaints about cities acting as a Happiness Hivemind being terribly unrealistic.
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Re: Civilization V
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2010, 08:39:48 pm »

I've been following this more than is healthy. I thought a few days ago that I should start up a Civ 5 post here so that we didn't have some shit OP with no info. I regret my laziness.

I'm pretty excited about mods being Lua....oh man I hope I don't get too distracted.

The $10 off D2D sale where you get civ 5 + next mini expansion DLC for free was only 40 bucks for me. I think there's a 5 dollar off sale if you use the coupon "PAX" right now. And yes, you can preload with D2D.

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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2010, 09:06:00 pm »

Already pre-loaded. I have a game on fucking Tuesday though, so I probably won't get to play much. I think I might just fake sick to play some fukkin civ V

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Re: Civilization V
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2010, 09:11:26 pm »

so that we didn't have some shit OP with no info. I regret my laziness.
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2010, 09:48:21 pm »

Oh gosh, I can't imagine living in Israel and having to wait a fucking year for Civ V

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Re: Civilization V
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2010, 11:07:59 pm »

Aw c'mon! That's just not fair!  Civ 5 reviews out already?! It's still 4 days awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-civilization-v/704828

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Re: Civilization V
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2010, 11:29:47 pm »

There is a (long) two-part video playthrough here.

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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2010, 11:50:47 pm »

Another nice new addition: You no longer have to faff around with transport ships. Once you research Optics, any unit can move out into shoreline tiles, and another tech lets units cross oceans.

Now these units are defenseless on the water, so must still be escorted.
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2010, 02:25:01 am »

Another nice new addition: You no longer have to faff around with transport ships. Once you research Optics, any unit can move out into shoreline tiles, and another tech lets units cross oceans.

Now these units are defenseless on the water, so must still be escorted.
Oh, thank god...

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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2010, 02:34:12 am »

 Hey, Rise of Nations all that cool jazz.

 Hopefully the happiness model changed with what government you have. While the first government of savages would model happiness city-by-city, Democracy would have a global happiness stat. Could be interesting, and I've always wanted the government types to have a rather massive effect on how your country runs.
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2010, 02:55:10 am »

compared to what civ 4 was to civ 3, civ 5 seems to be an huge leap for the series.

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2010, 03:01:21 am »

Another nice new addition: You no longer have to faff around with transport ships. Once you research Optics, any unit can move out into shoreline tiles, and another tech lets units cross oceans.

Now these units are defenseless on the water, so must still be escorted.

This is one of the best design decisions I've heard of yet, especially combined with the One Unit Per Tile rule.  Man I hated mucking around with transports.

Between all these disparate alterations, Civ V is going to be the biggest departure since Alpha Centauri.  Is Sid Meier even still personally involved, or is Firaxis' stuff still as much his brainchild as before?  Because I wonder what brought on all these new changes after nearly twenty years of the same basic formula.
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2010, 03:03:31 am »

maybe he thought that it was time to change a bit, after 20 years of the same basic formula.
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