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[Cespinarve]

I have no idea what you people are going on about, but when I paste Baughn's code into the terminal, it runs fora  while before I get

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checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin9.8.0
checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin9.8.0
checking target system type... i386-apple-darwin9.8.0
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether ln works... yes
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... no
checking for awk... awk
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: in `/Users/Riven/gcc/build':
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.

Any help?

[smaerd]

Adamantine is unminable in this version. 
Forum thread:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=66315

Bug tracker:
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=3266

Just posting here to help others that are experiencing the same problem.

[monk12]

Slightly more on topic, does anybody know just how population growth is modeled in worldgen? It occurred to me that if everybody is constantly poppin out babies with only war as a way to slow down growth, then it makes sense that there is so much sprawl. IRL, medieval populations could only get so large before a bout of plague swept through or a famine or drought or something. Now that we have a way to gauge how much food a city has available to it, it seems like a more realistic population growth model would be next in line to limit expansion of civs and would lead directly to more wars as civs compete for fertile river valleys. You know, like in real life.

Of course, all this falls apart if that is already modeled and I just don't know about it, hence my question.

[ledgekindred]

I have no idea what you people are going on about, but when I paste Baughn's code into the terminal, it runs fora  while before I get: 

Heh.  If you don't have the developer's tools (i.e. gcc) installed, you can't compile a newer version of gcc so that df will run.

If you don't know what "gcc" is, probably best to wait for Baughn to release a fix.

It's worth a shot. I've successfully compiled libgraphics with clang on linux before, which should be somewhat representative of Toady's coding style.

That would be ... pretty cool.  Especially if the performance optimizations I've seen elsewhere also held true with df. 

The main reason I bring up Xcode 4 in terms of clang is because I know Apple contributes code to clang/llvm but I have no idea of the status between what's in the llvm/clang codebase and anything Apple may or may not still have in the works.  Especially since Apple is touting the clang improvements coming with Xcode 4 which hasn't officially been released yet.  I'm sure if they are not already there, they would quickly get into the main clang tree though.

(Tell Toady I'll buy him a copy of Snow Leopard if he lets me download df for free. )

[Mel_Vixen]

Slightly more on topic, does anybody know just how population growth is modeled in worldgen? It occurred to me that if everybody is constantly poppin out babies with only war as a way to slow down growth, then it makes sense that there is so much sprawl. IRL, medieval populations could only get so large before a bout of plague swept through or a famine or drought or something. Now that we have a way to gauge how much food a city has available to it, it seems like a more realistic population growth model would be next in line to limit expansion of civs and would lead directly to more wars as civs compete for fertile river valleys. You know, like in real life.

Of course, all this falls apart if that is already modeled and I just don't know about it, hence my question.

Child Mortallity was also signifcantly higher (something around 50% iirc). DFs childs life to 100% to theyr adulthood if they arent wounded which goes even beyond the modern western average off 99.7% .  Also the mothers died more often on Child-birth.

[Cespinarve]

I have no idea what you people are going on about, but when I paste Baughn's code into the terminal, it runs fora  while before I get: 

Heh.  If you don't have the developer's tools (i.e. gcc) installed, you can't compile a newer version of gcc so that df will run.

If you don't know what "gcc" is, probably best to wait for Baughn to release a fix.

It's worth a shot. I've successfully compiled libgraphics with clang on linux before, which should be somewhat representative of Toady's coding style.

That would be ... pretty cool.  Especially if the performance optimizations I've seen elsewhere also held true with df. 

The main reason I bring up Xcode 4 in terms of clang is because I know Apple contributes code to clang/llvm but I have no idea of the status between what's in the llvm/clang codebase and anything Apple may or may not still have in the works.  Especially since Apple is touting the clang improvements coming with Xcode 4 which hasn't officially been released yet.  I'm sure if they are not already there, they would quickly get into the main clang tree though.

(Tell Toady I'll buy him a copy of Snow Leopard if he lets me download df for free. )

Bah, I am not a patient man when it comes to my DF. I went to all the trouble to move my save file from the Windows partition, and now this indignity! Truly, no one suffers more in the universe than I.

[Baughn]

Try "sudo apt-get install build-essential", then run my script again. (Or possibly build-essentials. Don't remember.)

[ledgekindred]

Bah, I am not a patient man when it comes to my DF. I went to all the trouble to move my save file from the Windows partition, and now this indignity! Truly, no one suffers more in the universe than I.

Only if you are dedicated, fearless or truly desperate iDwarves, unspoiler.  Everyone else ignore this and wait for Baughn to work his magic and stick with .12 for now.

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If you do not already have Xcode, macports and/or fink already installed with a compiler present, Baughn's script won't work.  If you don't know what any of this means, wait for Baughn to get the Mac version rebuilt, unless you're still feeling masochistic.

You will have to have, or sign up for, a free apple developer account, be running Snow Leopard and on an Intel Mac to download and install Xcode.  Mind that it's a ~1GB download, takes ~10min to fully install, uses about ~5GB of disk space and if you don't already have it it installed means you have never needed it and likely will never need it again.  If this is still not enough to make you wait for Baughn, go here:

http://developer.apple.com/technologies/xcode.html

Download and install Xcode and re-run Baughn's script which will take further time and disk space as it builds another compiler that you will never use.  But will at least have no other effect on your system except to let you play DF until it's officially fixed.

See, I told you it'd be better to wait.

[Cespinarve]

Sigh. Point taken. And I never did bother to update to Snow Leopard... it came out about a month or so after I bought my Mac, and it didn't seem worth it.

[ledgekindred]

Sigh. Point taken. And I never did bother to update to Snow Leopard... it came out about a month or so after I bought my Mac, and it didn't seem worth it.

We are Mac users.  We are used to indignity and suffering at the hands of the rest of the computing world. 

[Cespinarve]

Sigh. Point taken. And I never did bother to update to Snow Leopard... it came out about a month or so after I bought my Mac, and it didn't seem worth it.

We are Mac users.  We are used to indignity and suffering at the hands of the rest of the computing world. 

No, that would be people who own Acers.

Baughn, oh Baughn, where art thou? For is it in returning and rest that this code shall yet be saved? I wants me my Mac DF, as my Mac partition has all my music files.

[Andeerz]

Also, my work compy is a mac... I'd love to have it on there for break-time... >.>

[AbacusWizard]

dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib

same thing here. Toady apparently used an independently built gcc rather than the one that is part of the Mac dev tools.  It's looking for libstc++ library from its install directory. otool shows it will look for:

/usr/local/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
/usr/local/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib

from the gcc build location.  Easily solvable by putting the dylibs in with the archive and adjusting the search path but I wonder why Toady used a custom-built gcc in the first place.

Easily solvable? So how exactly do I do that?

[Baughn]

Easily solvable by Toady.

I'd do it, but I don't actually have a mac. >_>

[Toady One]

/usr/local/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
/usr/local/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib

Do I need both of those or just the top one?

New Mac one up.  Hopefully that works.