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[The Fool]

I have Saturdays booked off already at work, so I can't guarantee anything. If it is a Monday I think I should be fine. Shifts on Mondays seem to be more rare.

I think that reducing an items cost to create by limiting the number of possible users is just plain broken. Maybe if it took a long time to make? It needs something to balance it, because no user is planning on being polymorphed anytime soon.

@Haika: Shoruke may want to lift the ban on psionics now that he is in another campaign that is psionic focused. If that is the case then reviving an ancient kind of magic would work as a quest. As for multiclassing a druid I wouldn't recommend it normally, because it is a strong core class. When multiclassing look for classes that work together. In this case there is the druid/ranger multiclass if you want to keep effective dinos, but your magic will be seriously impaired. I'll see if I can find a melee/magic prestige class that fits your character and works with druids. I'll be back.

EDIT: I'll make a list here, but if there is a post I'll move the list when it is done. If you want more info before you get another book just ask. Some classes are a lengthy read, so I can't just make a stat block. Here is what I have so far:

Spoiler: Prestige (click to show/hide)

Complete Adventurer:
Animal Lord - Minor shapechanging with a primitive feel about the class. Animal companion levels stack. I'm sure dinos can be edited in.
Beastmaster - Lots of animal companions. Animal companion levels stack. Might be a bit much to have so many animals on field.
Master of Many Forms - Shapeshifting based class. Go for druid only if you do take it. Does not increase the wild shape per day count.
Wild Plains Outrider - Mounted combat specialist. Animal companion levels stack.

Complete Warrior:
Halfling Outrider - Mounted archery specialist. Mounted penalty reduction for halflings. Animal companion levels stack.

I think I am going to make an AC momster again as a back-up. I found something that would help me pass Van in AC quickly. Sadly swordsage AC bonuses require armor, while monk AC bonuses forbid it.

Spoiler: AC build (click to show/hide)

This build is intended to be impossible to hit. It is for a scout and nothing else. Vow of Poverty will be used, but Vow of Peace will not (for everyone elses sanity). Won't be finished until I find more AC boosting classes.

Things to be approved: Kalashtar race, Fist of the Forest, Psionic focuses (prerequisite for an ability), Quori Nightmare, Primeval.
Race: Kalashtar (RoE, p.55)
Stats: 14 Str, 16 Dex, 15 Con, 10 Int, 14 Wis, 8 Cha
Stats that count for AC: Dex, Con, Wis. (+8 at level 6)
1:Monk 1 (19 AC)
2:Monk 2
3:Barbarian 1 (Talk about an alignment jump)
4:Fighter 1 (+1 Con)
5:Fighter 2
6:Fist of the Forest 1 (CC, p.80)
7: Quori Nightmare 1 (RoE, p.148) (+2 Con)
8: Quori Nightmare 2 (+1 Con)
9: Quori Nightmare 3
10: Quori Nightmare 4
11: Quori Nightmare 5 (+2 Dex/+2 Con)
12:Fist of the Forest 2 (+1 Con)
13:Primeval 1 (Fb, p.65)
14:Primeval 2 (+1 Str, +1 Dex, +1 Con, +1 Wis, -1 Int, -1 Cha)
15:Primeval 3 (+2 Dex, +2 Con, +2 Wis)
16:Primeval 4 (+1 Con)
17:Primeval 5 (+1 Str, +1 Dex, +1 Con, +1 Wis, -1 Int, -1 Cha)

AC at level 17: 49 (Without a feral form, or a feral trance. +11 with both)

@Haika: If you want to fix your knife thrower take a look at a Rogue/Master Thrower (Complete Warrior) combo. Sneak attacks from a distance and more. The entry requirements would be the only problem. +5 BAB is harder to meet as just a rogue, so a Rogue/Swashbuckler/Master Thrower would work better.
@Barbarossa: I think that the warforged in RoE, p.163 could be an awesome character portrait. Especially with that hat.

[Haika]

My reasoning behind thinking about adding a Barbarian level or two, was because when reading the stuff about druids in the plain old normal handbook they talked about druids and barbarians having a similar nature-based religion thing. I'll probably end up as just a druid, or a druid/ranger.

But yeah, still wondering about the psionic stuff that is somewhat poking it's head out with my gear. (mostly the shapesand, as that stuff looks awesome)

[RedWarrior0]

Just because it has a semi-psionic feel doesn't mean that it's actually psionic. Once it gets into power points, yeah, that's doubtless, but shapesand isn't psionic.

Isn't alignment also an allowed restriction? There's some standard wondrous items that are alignment-restricted.

[Shoruke]

Hmm. Yup, you can use alignment as a restriction to make your stuff cost less to make.
Oh, but did I mention that when you make restricted items, the resale value will take a major hit? Context sensitive, of course; for instance, there's more orcs by far in Rivershire than there are in Eriden. However, if it's an item you intent to keep pretty much forever, then this still works to your obvious advantage.

As for psionics, I'm still dubious about them. Although, perhaps after a couple weeks of Red's game, I'll be more familiar with the mechanics of it, and I can engineer a quest to unlock the secret powers of the MIIIIIND! If you guys want.

[RedWarrior0]

Hmm. Yup, you can use alignment as a restriction to make your stuff cost less to make.
Oh, but did I mention that when you make restricted items, the resale value will take a major hit? Context sensitive, of course; for instance, there's more orcs by far in Rivershire than there are in Eriden. However, if it's an item you intent to keep pretty much forever, then this still works to your obvious advantage.

As for psionics, I'm still dubious about them. Although, perhaps after a couple weeks of Red's game, I'll be more familiar with the mechanics of it, and I can engineer a quest to unlock the secret powers of the MIIIIIND! If you guys want.

The main problem of psionics is that, with them being non-core, manipulative players can use lack of DM knowledge about their limitations (which they do have) to shatter a campaign to pieces. Several of the powers are more versatile than the most equivalent spell (Animal Affinity comes to mind; it's any of the +4 competence bonuses in a single power, though it's limited to Egoists), though they might be limited to one discipline. I like the psion specialization more than wizard; rather than give the powerful guy even more slots at limited cost (Diviners barring Evocation, cough), it just puts one or two extra powers per level on your list.

[The Fool]

For the purposes of the AC build I'd be up for a psionic quest.

I just read of what D&D considers cold weather, and it is laughable. Below 40 degrees Fahrenheit is nothing. At least extreme cold is at -20 Fahrenheit, which is roughly what it is in the Canadian prairies every winter, and that is cold.

@Haika: Instead of taking a level in barbarian you can take a level in Animal Lord, which stacks with your druid levels for things. You'd keep that feeling that a barbarian would give without hurting your animal companion level. Sorry for stacking the number of books you'd have if you pick this.

[Haika]

@Haika: Instead of taking a level in barbarian you can take a level in Animal Lord, which stacks with your druid levels for things. You'd keep that feeling that a barbarian would give without hurting your animal companion level. Sorry for stacking the number of books you'd have if you pick this.

Well, I've already downloaded a bunch of pdfs, one more can't hurt I suppose. What book is Animal Lord from?

[The Fool]

@Haika: Complete Adventurer. It is one of the most useful books for prestige classes if you happen to be a druid.

[Haika]

Hmm, looking over Animal Lord I don't see much there. Beastmaster seems better to me actually. Allowing for multiple animal companions.

Animal lord would take quite a bit of homebrewing and fudging to get it to the point where I thought it was sufficently 'desert' to fit with this concept I'm working on. Snakelord or Birdlord maybe... but there's no 'dinolord' or 'scorplord' or 'sandlord' heh.

What I'll probably end up doing is making a full druid to level 4(the intro start thing), and then see how that works out using the shapesand, desert tweaks and such, then decide if I need to add in any melee or ranged prestige classes when I level up.

[The Fool]

If you do go the path of the Beastmaster we are going to have SO MANY ANIMALS. Could be fun.  I suppose it would even let you desert theme it yourself with dinosaurs, ashworms, and monstrous scorpions.

[Kogan Loloklam]

Just a fair word of Warning, it was an Ashworm that almost killed Stihe. She'll probably react in unpredictable ways around them.

[The Fool]

If you do go the path of the Beastmaster we are going to have SO MANY ANIMALS. Could be fun.  I suppose it would even let you desert theme it yourself with dinosaurs, ashworms, and monstrous scorpions.

Probably won't happen though.

EDIT: While I finished an AC build I think that AC becomes a little redundant by the time he would be broken. However I did find out that by level 9 I could deal 2d10 unarmed damage, and that fists count as light weapons for TWF. Fun facts. Based on this I think I want to make an Anderson-esque TWF monk/paladin. Killing... for great justice.

And Vow of Poverty isn't going to be used. Handwraps of Defending might be used if the DM is alright with it. It would still be considered a +1 enchantment effect on a +2 item though. Should add +5 AC if I recall seeing that correctly. I'll provide a page number after work.

[RAM]

The barbarian's favourite trick is rage. There is a feat called extra rage that grants two extra rages. There is another feat somewhere, I think, that lets you ignore up to... probably 4 levels for determining your animal companion. There is another feat, which I believe will work for divine casters, that lets them ignore up to 4 levels in other classes with respect to caster-level, though it does nothing for spell-level...

[Haika]

Ok, ready to start rolling this guy. Are we still at starting Level 3, and 2700g? Or has that increased?

[RAM]

If I give my fire beetles ride and mounted combat, can I summon them in stacks?