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[b_boy_212]

Hey sorry I could not make it school caught up and I cant do anything till its done which will be tomorrow.

[RAM]

I have lost momentum on my macro megaproject. I think that maybe some less tedious macro shenanigans might make me interestd in it again. If anyone has any questions or requests concerning Maptools' apalling macro language, feel free to say so...

P.S.
 Obviously Shoruke is the only one with the authority to turn this into the Maptools macro thread...

P.P.S.
 I may do a quick guide later on...

[Shoruke]

Yeah, I think I'll give the bystanders some RP experience for guarding the sandflier, just to prevent people from getting behind on exp. 300 exp to everyone who guarded the Bote!

Anyhow, I was leveling up and ran across a couple variant features to replace a familiar with.

Spoiler: Blood of Eberron (click to show/hide)

Summon Familiar

Gain an Animal Companion as a Druid
of ½ your Sorcerer level (levels stacks
with Druid & Ranger).
If you take Feat: Natural Spell, its
benefits apply also if you are in
Animal Form due to Polymorph, etc

Ehh...sure.

Spoiler: Blood of Siberys (click to show/hide)

Summon Familiar

Your Charisma is effectively +4 for the
purpose of receiving extra Sorcerer
spells and the maximum Sorcerer spell
level you can cast.

As an ACF? Balls no.

Spoiler: Homebrew Combat Enhancement (click to show/hide)

Summon Familiar

Gain full BAB instead of Cleric (3/4) BAB as battle sorcerer.

Fuck no.

Spoiler: Homebrew Magic Enhancement (click to show/hide)

Summon Familiar
Know and cast one more spell per day of your highest available level.

Definitely not as an ACF. If it were a feat with some other (probably really bad) feat prerequisites, it would get upgraded to a "maybe".

As for your hp roll... even though you can prove that you did roll an 8, I have no way of determining how many rolls you made before you got it. So if you want to roll for your hp, please do it during the next session.

FEAT FOR REVIEW: Arcane Disciple (Storm). Due to super devotion to Procan, I get the storm domain spells added to my list and can cast 1 of each level once per day.
(providing references constitutes being nice to your GM)
If you take this as a feat, you add the spells from the storm domain to your sorcerer spells known. You won't be able to cast them any extra times per day.

ALSO: What was the final decision on Leadership?
If you take it, you can get one (and only one) follower who brings no equipment of their own (save civilian clothes), can only take NPC class levels, and can't use Item Creation feats.

[Heron TSG]

Is it a follower or a cohort? Can they start with enough money to buy basic equipment, say 100 gold?

[Kogan Loloklam]

I think I'm level 4 now then (if not, The journal will put me there)

In that case, I'd like to take Armor Focus (Plate Mail) as my next feat, as we discussed some time ago.
It would reduce my Armor Check Penalty by 1, and increase my dex bonus by 1.

Justification is through use and study of his new armor, he's figured out how to fight better with it.

For skills, I'm putting 3 into Siegecraft, and 1 into Architecture. My trips to Ibaea have been very informative in learning how to build buildings, and likewise how to tear them apart!
+5 HP for half fighter, +1 for con bonus (6 total). New Point goes into strength (I've been lifting a lot of heavy stuff. Makes me pretty buff!)

[Shoruke]

Is it a follower or a cohort? Can they start with enough money to buy basic equipment, say 100 gold?

Cohort. And no. And bear in mind that if your cohort dies, you don't get a new one; you either pay out the ass to revive him, or go without.

[The Fool]

I'd avoid that feat and just get an army of donkeys. They are willing to enter dungeons, they deal 1d2 damage, and they only cost 8 gold each. Just think about it...

"Why exactly are we bringing a hundred donkeys with us again?"

"Well two are for our supplies, and I doubt that the enemy can kill 98 hungry donkeys before being bitten to death."

"Brilliant!"

[RedWarrior0]

Well, you need a lot more than 100 if we're dragon slaying. 400 donkeys hit 20 times for 21d2 damage... that's a lot of donkeys.

[syvarris]

Spoiler: Vaba's journal (click to show/hide)

  Earlier today, Maelrigar, Ethan, Mathaf and I all headed out after Uskton Slek to help him bring back books.  Shortly after catching up to Uskton Slek, we saw two beautiful women leaning on a blasted building.
  I was immediately suspicious- Two unarmed, unarmored women, casually leaning on a wall in the center of a dead, monster infested city?  Somethings up.  So I took the most reasonable action and shot the nearest one twice twice.  Strangely, the last two shots bounced off like rubber.  The scream though... it seemed, different somehow.  The others berated me as the women ran, then decided to chase them down and calm them.  Right before I could finish them off, they ran around a corner and summoned a whirlwind of sand, blocking my vision.
  I followed Mathaf down a alleyway and through a illusionry pile of sand.  The princesses were on the other side in another alleyway.  Instead of attacking, Mathaf decided to launch a rainbow at them then immediately ran over and kissed the nearest one.  Mael, Lyca and Uskton Slek rushed into the alleyway from the opposite end.  I shot one of them several times but she ignored the arrows.  Then Mathaf charged ME shouting idiotic blather.  Before I could plug his gibbering throat, one of the girls ran over and kissed me... my memory go's foggy there, but I thought that they were some beautiful queens who were in love with me, and that I should serve them.  Naturally I decided the best way to serve her would be to shoot Mathaf.  Twice of course.  Wisely, Mathaf swerved away and attacked Maelrigar as he was kissed by another of the women.
  Then Tallulah came in- apparently she had been trailing us for a little while.  Maelrigar decided to try and get busy early but was tossed past by his crush.  And hit in the face by Uskton Slek.  At this the princesses decided to relinquish control of Maelrigar and Mathaf, but they kept me under control since I am such a dangerous and risky opponent.
  Then that idiot, Mathaf, decided to tackle me, despite the fact that he had re-gained his mind!  As he held me down, the princesses realized that they might lose a powerful weapon and cast a sandstorm spell which ripped at him but not me.  I said uncle and he let me go, and I was about to put an arrow through his non-existent face, when both the princesses were knocked out in the sandstorm they summoned.
  As their spell faded I regained my mind and they lost their looks, becoming horrible hags in just a few seconds.  While the others started arguing about slavery, Maelrigar chopped off one of their heads.  I shoved an arrow through the others eye.  Tallulah and Ethan seem to have finished healing the wounds Mathaf's spikes put in me and the arrows I put in him, so we'll get going to the guild now.

Also, Why would you use donkeys?  Mules are much better, they cost the same, they have twice the hitpoints, attacks, size, attack bonus and don't have "Only bites when cornered" on their description.

God... now I'm visualizing Vaba using a mule as his mount...

[The Fool]

Somehow I think it would be brilliant to be a large scale mule herder who enjoys a good adventure, I wouldn't even need a specific player class. Imagine the handle animal checks that would be involved in that 400 mules vs dragon battle though. I think the DM would have to be lenient to allow something that ridiculous.

[Kogan Loloklam]

God... now I'm visualizing Vaba using a mule as his mount...

Once in a 2e game we had a party of mostly dwarves. Included was a dwarven "cavalry" riding a war boar.

Several aspects of that became quite a bit of group lore, and references to it were made 6-7 years later even, in very unrelated games.
Odd mounts add a lot of flavor to a game.

[RedWarrior0]

Somehow I think it would be brilliant to be a large scale mule herder who enjoys a good adventure, I wouldn't even need a specific player class. Imagine the handle animal checks that would be involved in that 400 mules vs dragon battle though. I think the DM would have to be lenient to allow something that ridiculous.

That was 400 doing the equivalent of 21 attacks (20 hits (natural 20s) and one critical (two natural 20s), assuming the dragon has significant AC. Not just 400 mules.

[Grek]

If you really want to play a ridiculous shepard character, oxen are 15gp per and are suprisingly impressive stats wise. The only hurdle is finding the time needed to train your cattle army for fighting. You can train up to 5 at once, which is just enough to qualify you for being able to stampede them into people. The DC to do so is 20 for most tricks, which is easily passed as a second level character (5 ranks, +3 from Skill Focus (handle animal) and +3 from charisma bonus) by just taking 10, so you might be able to work it into your backstory. It also means that you're not running around with 400 mules and having to find a way to feed and house all of those.

[The Fool]

Stampeding would be impossible to use in combat. They run away from danger, not towards. Though with that said 1d8+9 is awesome for 15g, and to top it off you can ford the river with oxen. I don't think that WotC intended for oxen herders in parties. I have to try this in another game.

[Grek]

The key to using stampede in combat is making sure that your heard of oxen fear you more than whatever you want them to stampede.