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[mission0]

Official notice: There's a good chance there won't be a session this Saturday, on account of my possibly being 650 km away from home to visit my last living grandparent, who is likely to die in the next few months.

On the brighter side of things, I thought the session went rather well... except that the group went to the ruins before they had a reason to... oh well, it worked out, you guys got some cheap loot.

Well our current goal was to map the desert, and the closest city was of the mages which is where we are heading. We just stopped on our way there to see what was in the ruins.

[The Fool]

@Araph: Don't worry about it, I'm on my third character for this one campaign. I had a good character idea for the second character but then quickly realized that he would actually have no reason not to kill everyone in the group on behalf of Nerull. Isn't roleplaying fun? Also we had a distinct lack of frontliners that weren't greatsword-wielding sorcerer tanks so I changed character types.

In short, if you want a different playstyle then go for it. We won't stop you, especially this early in your characters levels.

[Shoruke]

Yeah, changing of characters is frowned upon, but I'm not going to disallow it or anything. My first every D&D character died quite early on in his career (what with him having only 6 con, getting turned into a half-tree which is weak against fire, and then getting shot by an undodgeable fire ray through a pillar)...

[Kogan Loloklam]

Wow. Your DM hated you.



(Did you get my PM?)

[RAM]

One possible build for Araph, I tried to stick to the SRD...:
Race: Earth Dwarf(strength and double stability) or Dwarf(This will do if the D.M. doesn't like Earth dwarf)
Abilities: Strength:19 18, Dexterity 13 14, Constitution 16, Intelligence 14, wisdom 8, charisma 7 6.
Alignment: Lawful Good
Level:
1: Fighter1, Heroic durability, exotic weapon proficiency(spiked chain), Combat Expertise, Flaw(Poor reflexes), Toughness.
2: Fighter2, Combat Reflexes.
3: Sorcerer1, Pet rat, Spells(Resistance, detect magic, light, Arcane mark, Prestidigitation. True Strike, Enlarge Person((or shield)), Featherfall((or shield)).), Knowledge(arcana) 4, Improved Trip.
4: Fighter3, Knowledge(arcana) 6.
5: Fighter4, Improved Disarm, Knowledge(arcana) 8.
6: Gold Dragon Disciple1, Dodge.
7: Gold Dragon Disciple2.
8: Gold Dragon Disciple3.
9: Gold Dragon Disciple4, Mobility.
10: Gold Dragon Disciple5.
11: Gold Dragon Disciple6.
12: Gold Dragon Disciple7, Spring Attack.
13: Gold Dragon Disciple8.
14: Gold Dragon Disciple9.
15: Gold Dragon Disciple10, Endurance.
16: Dwarven Defender1.
17: Dwarven Defender2.
18: Dwarven defender3, Whirlwind attack.
19: Dwarven Defender4.
20: Dwarven Defender5.

[RedWarrior0]

You know that for spells, you need the main stat (Cha for sorcerers) to be at least 10+level, right?

Edit: Once we hit level 9, I can do venom collections for Nael. And how do we have 0 dwarves, who have that nice bonus against poisons?

[Shoruke]

Did you get my PM?

Yeah. I haven't answered about it yet, because frankly, having a deer-person walking around would be SERIOUSLY RANDOM.
...
Rule of Fun it is... you can join as a deer person. Sacrificing your human skill points and feat for +2 to some skills doesn't seem like it'll break the game; in fact, I'm considering (emphasis: haven't made up my mind yet) letting you use your antlers as a secondary natural weapon during a full attack.
Note that you will draw lots of weird looks with your antlers.

Problem with your sheet, though: your wisdom is 6. And without seeing a full stat block of a deer-person that includes -2 wis, I can't give your sheet an okay, because I don't allow the "selling" of attributes below 8.

[Kogan Loloklam]

Fixed.

And sure, he could use them... except...

[The Fool]

Based on the Rhinoceros entry's (MM p.278) description, a gore attack (can be antlers) deals 2d6 damage for a large herbivore with similar size and natural weapons. Drop a size category and a new horn type and you have antlers that deals 1d8 damage. Please note this does not have to be a full-attack to use as far as I can tell. Hope that helps.

Nice to have stats for them even if you don't use them.

[Araph]

Thanks for giving me a bit of leeway on changing characters. Like I said, I'm really new at DnD. I'm thinking about a halfling sorcerer/rogue combo. I'd start as a rogue, but take levels of sorcerer later on as my character becomes more powerful. Then, after that, I'd take the Arcane Trickster prestige class. So it's sorta like the character I started with, only slightly better thought through and far more preferable in my mind.

[RAM]

Sorcerer requires one more level to qualify for arcane trickster and the intelligence you need for wizard is useful for rogue skills, while charisma doesn't generally do as much for rogues. It is still a valid choice though, I don't really use sorcerers so I am a poor judge of their merits. Not trying to disuade you, just bringing up some thoughts.

On the topic of charisma for spellcasting in my posted build, firstly, yes, I completely forgot about that. But it should be able to cast spells if is has a suitably potent charisma item and spellcasting is not of primary concern, just so long as it has enough theoretical spellcasting potential to qualify for the dragon disciple class...

[Lord Shonus]

From the journal of Corina Chillblood

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Once again, impetuous nearly cost the party a wizard. As the wizard in question was myself, this concerns me greatly. While looting a ruined city, I decided to set off on my own in the hopes that I would avoid having to haggle with the party for anything that I might find. Unfortuately, the first thing I found was a monstrous scorpion of unusually large size. Forgetting that I was carrying a tanglefoot bag nearly proved my undoing, but I was still nearly able to vanquish the creature before support arrived. Had I a greater mastery of conjuring, I might have managed to finish it unaided. This is something I must consider. Also, there is a not-unplesant burning dwarf in the forge. He clames to be from a plane of elemental fire, which explains his comfort in the heat. I should have requested provate rooms along with the forge, as I had forgotten how discomfited my habitual attire makes my companions. I have had to make do with using my blankets as a makeshift curtain.

[Araph]

Here's the uncompleted character sheet; I'm a bit confused about a few things:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=275561

I'm not sure whether I'm putting the racial ability modifiers in right, because whenever I do put them in Mythweavers doesn't count them. Also, what do I do about items? Would I just choose any items I want and subtract there value from my starting gold?

[Shoruke]

RAM already gave a very good example of how to do the point-buy thing. Instead of hitting a dead horse with my biggerstick, I'll just quote it.

Spoiler: bitchin' example is also bitchin' long (click to show/hide)

with a 32 point buy all your stats start at 8. You may then raise your stats by spending points, of which you have 32. As you raise a single stat really high it starts to get more expensive, the first 6 increases(9-14) cost 1 point each, the next 2 (15-16) cost two a piece, and the two after that(17-18) cost 3 each. You cannot buy your stats above 18 or below 8. Once you have bought your stats you then apply racial modifiers. So, for example:

Dwarf barbarian, starts with:
strength: 8
dexterity: 8
constitution: 8
intelligence: 8
wisdom: 8
charisma: 8
remaining points: 32

They decide to raise their strength and constitution to 16, because it is what dwarven barbarians do...
raising an attribute to 16 costs 10 points, 6 to get it to 14 and another 4 to get it up to 16:
strength: 16 [10]
dexterity: 8
constitution: 16 [10]
intelligence: 8
wisdom: 8
charisma: 8
remaining points: 12

They discover that they need lots of skill points, for a prestige class, and they really need a few spare for craft(disturbing mental image), so intelligence goes up to 14, because that is as high as you can go without paying additional fees...
strength: 16
dexterity: 8
constitution: 16
intelligence: 14 [6]
wisdom: 8
charisma: 8
remaining points: 6

They spend their last 6 points on strength, because stuff needs killing...
strength: 18 [10+6=16]
dexterity: 8
constitution: 16
intelligence: 14
wisdom: 8
charisma: 8
remaining points: 0

At which point they are out of points, but they are still a dwarf, which means +2 con and -2 cha:
strength: 18
dexterity: 8
constitution: 18 [+2]
intelligence: 14
wisdom: 8
charisma: 6 [-2]
remaining points: 0

Here is a handy chart for the price for getting an attribute to a certain magnitude:
attribute=cost in points, 8=0, 9=1, 10=2, 11=3, 12=4, 13=5, 14=6, 15=8, 16=10, 17=13, 18=16

As for items, my policy is to give you two options: you may either transfer all of your current character's stuff over to the new guy, or you can use the starting gold in the OP (currently 600 gp) and buy everything.

[Araph]

Oh, ok. I see what I messed up with there. Thanks!

I think the character sheet is finished. Except for the name. Hmm.