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Author Topic: Discussion of the Week: "Is the Internet detrimental to humanity?"  (Read 5962 times)

Solifuge

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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 07:58:26 pm »
As for Rules of Conduct, I'm thinking no making personal attacks, and no inciting or participating in flame-wars.

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Philosophical writing discussion:

Does the presence of a Mary Sue-esqe character in a work automatically make the work bad? Or is it possible to have an entertaining narrative that still contains such a character? I was thinking about how Captain Kirk was a bit sue-ish in Star Trek, but it didn't really make the show any worse.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 07:58:55 pm »
So, what shall we do? Six?
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We may not be as brave as Gryffindor, as willing to get our hands dirty as Hufflepuff, or as devious as Slytherin, but there is nothing, nothing more dangerous than a little too much knowledge and a conscience that is open to debate

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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 07:59:14 pm »
Uh, isn't that just a scaled down version of the site rules? I still think we should do one, but I'm obviously biased on that. I just hate seeing high school students who would drown in eight feet of water.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 07:59:46 pm »
Some kind of guidelines could be good too.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 08:00:14 pm »
Quote from: Solifuge on September 13, 2010, 07:58:26 pm
As for Rules of Conduct, I'm thinking no making personal attacks, and no inciting or participating in flame-wars.

Quick question: what counts as "inciting a flame war?"  I mean, is this your basic "don't troll, guys?"  Or is there something deeper that I'm missing?
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2010, 08:02:41 pm »
Quote from: Vector on September 13, 2010, 08:00:14 pm
Quote from: Solifuge on September 13, 2010, 07:58:26 pm
As for Rules of Conduct, I'm thinking no making personal attacks, and no inciting or participating in flame-wars.

Quick question: what counts as "inciting a flame war?"  I mean, is this your basic "don't troll, guys?"  Or is there something deeper that I'm missing?
I think he means it on the line of not doing somthing like this:
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Once we have the technology, a trancendent, hedonistic society seems inevitable. Only the damned religous nutjobs are holding us back from achiving that.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2010, 08:06:14 pm »
I'd say that leaving it open to interpretation makes it a more flexible and effective rule... but that works as an example. Basically, saying something with the intent of making people angry, or that insults a group of people. Trolling would fall under that too.

...you folks got any ideas for guidelines?
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2010, 08:07:28 pm »
No quantum physics may enter the discussion. Shit gets out of hand when you bring in the Monkeyverse.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2010, 08:08:30 pm »
I support the above, and motion that chaos theory be added as well.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2010, 08:10:02 pm »
I support the above support and motion, and furthermore deign to add that if Teddy Roosevelt said it, it cannot be used as a proof in an argument because that is too easy a victory.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 08:26:10 pm »
I like the debate about learning to swim. For example, I'm a Junior in High School and would likely drown in eight feet of water. Not for lack of trying, but mostly due to my propensity to sink like a rock. I'm just not the right shape for floating. (Not much fat, skinny limbs, etc.) Would I fail gym class?
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 08:27:20 pm »
You would swim or you would die.

Oh wait shit this is a serious thread.

We should start soon.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 08:41:17 pm »
I submit that a "No personal attacks" rule is meaningless, because in every other argument the forum comes up with, factual disagreement or calling out flagrant bullshit is considered a personal attack.

How about just starting with a topic and building rules by statute?
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2010, 08:49:57 pm »
I like debates. I'm not good at them though, so I'll probably just be watching from over here.
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Re: Debate of the Week: What Constitutes a good Debate? (Round 0)
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2010, 09:01:05 pm »
None of these should be in the debates: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
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