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[AMRIV]

So I was taking a wiki walk and according to the Fire entry  "... there is currently no way to safely start (and then control) a fire.". But I've built a fire trap before and it's pretty safe if you are careful. If you pour magma on a wooden floor the whole thing catches fire pretty quick. This is probably because the component item catches fire and spreads the !! condition to the rest of the floor, and then throughout any grass it "happens" to be near. As long as you keep your dwarfs out of the burn area it's safe, if you don't... well that's half of what Dwarf Fortress is all about.

The fort below has an example of one, note the tell tale signs of burnination. it's from the 40d days, but it should still work.

http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-9509-snakeshelms

Edit: I just remembered, it's not floors that I used, but roads, which is an important distinction.

[Nibble]

At least in DF2010, all constructions are indestructible; so I don't think you can set a constructed wooden floor on fire. A wood stockpile would probably work, though.

[Tommy]

I'm not sure whether or not you can ignite a wooden floor now, but you should be able to ignite floor grates made of such materials.  The wiki suggests using lignite or graphite grates, as their lack of a melting point means they'll ignite but never deconstruct as a result, creating a permanent flame.

[Bronimin]

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[Tommy]

Which is why you have a short entrance into your fort with pet-impassable doors at either end and fire on the ground, and a longer, more twisting route for safe entry.  Set the short route to heavily restricted, and your dwarfs will only use the long route, whereas invaders will ignore the routing designations and run straight through the flames.

[Grimlocke]

Which is why you have a short entrance into your fort with pet-impassable doors at either end and fire on the ground, and a longer, more twisting route for safe entry.  Set the short route to heavily restricted, and your dwarfs will only use the long route, whereas invaders will ignore the routing designations and run straight through the flames.

Them, and pets. Great way to solve the caplosion but having dozens of !!cats!! running around might cause problems.

[Brandon816]

Maybe have a waterfall just past the fire trap? That way if dwarves, pets, etc try to spread the fire, it will only go outside.

[puke]

whereas invaders will ignore the routing designations and run straight through the flames.

if by invaders you mean trade caravans then yes.  yes, they will.

I do have to give this a try, though.  maybe some lignite grates or statues under one of those "mist generators" loaded with magma.

I had no idea that it would perpetually burn.  I have made fountain lined interance halls, now I can add torches to the mix!  I wonder if a buring statue counts as art defacement...

[AMRIV]

only its not safe, because your dorfs will, at any chance they are given, spread the fire all over your fortress.

Well that's why you don't give them that chance, if you look you'll notice I have a 2 drawbridge airlock. Usually at least one is closed, but I must have been planning to do something outside when the save was made.

[Tommy]

whereas invaders will ignore the routing designations and run straight through the flames.

if by invaders you mean trade caravans then yes.  yes, they will.

I do have to give this a try, though.  maybe some lignite grates or statues under one of those "mist generators" loaded with magma.

I had no idea that it would perpetually burn.  I have made fountain lined interance halls, now I can add torches to the mix!  I wonder if a buring statue counts as art defacement...

Trade?  Sounds distinctly elven to me.

[Shoku]

If they burn without deconstructing does this mean they stay attached to any levers and pressure plates?

[sonerohi]

Everyone is so swift to forget the lignite bin trick.

[lanceleoghauni]

I was surprised no one mentioned it as well.

[Shoku]

I forget, what makes it superior to burning grates? That you can fling it in random directions with bridges?

[AMRIV]

The way this trap is set up, you can set the surrounding grassland on fire at the pull of a lever and only when you pull the lever. So it essentially burns everything outside the fortress.