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Author Topic: Mutant Factions| Subvein reborn onto Steam Green-light.  (Read 19442 times)

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Re: Subvein. Hero Squad Bay12
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2010, 06:25:20 pm »

Rather interesting game at the moment. Tons of bots involved. Makes Bullet time + stolen seekers a rather fun combo when you get 5 pistol practice awards in a row.

Edit: Gah. All these crazy namers. Can't stand NoObSlAy3r and junk

Yea, IDK who these 1337 kids think they are.
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Re: Subvein. Hero Squad Bay12
« Reply #166 on: September 18, 2010, 09:33:14 am »

So most of the people on nowadays don't speak english well, I don't mind it but it feels kinda lonely
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Re: Subvein. NEW PACTH!
« Reply #167 on: September 19, 2010, 05:46:30 pm »

Patch .64

Fixes most complaints I heard from you guys
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #168 on: September 19, 2010, 06:26:07 pm »

Aye. Seems better.
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #169 on: September 19, 2010, 08:58:43 pm »

Light sabers + high level players= no fun.
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #170 on: September 19, 2010, 09:11:31 pm »

They supposedly aren't any more effective. However, maxed dash makes impossible for players to dodge it without bladefury.
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #171 on: September 19, 2010, 09:14:35 pm »

I think they have a wider hit area,  but that may just be misperception.
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #172 on: September 20, 2010, 12:34:06 am »

Melee can get bladefury/SS people too, it just takes an extra hit or two. The key is having low ping, since at 200+ ping its impossible to hit anyone with it.

The gun changes are nice, but all the upped damage in combination with the previously nerfed SS seems to have made it much much much weaker. I'm dieing WAY more often before I lose my SS, and often within a second or two as if I didn't even have it up. Especially if they have crit.

From looking at the numbers heres the way it seems to work now:
Level 30 shoots me with AK47. 30 damage gets 10 removed by my level 10 SS, 2.5 blades are canceled out. 70% modifier applies, cutting damage down to 14. SS effectively absorbed 7 damage, or 1/3 of it. Total shots to kill me = 7 with 2 hp left, so barely 8, 3 more than the usual 5 to kill someone without it. Total SS used: 56, out of a total of 132 (from my 33 blades, 14 blade skill). So I had 56 extra hp.

Level 30 shoots me with AK47 and gets 1 critical. 75 damage gets 10 removed, 2.5 blades canceled out, 70% modifier applies, cutting damage down to 45.5. SS absorbed 7 damage, or about 13% of it. Assuming 20% crit chance, 1 of the 5 shots would be a critical. So approx 5 shots to kill me at this point, making the total absorbed 35. So I had 35 extra hp.

Pre-change the AK did 15 over a level 10 SS and 10 over a level 15 SS, post-change it does 20 over a level 10 SS and 15 over a level 15 SS. So for a level 15 SS user the base non-critical damage taken went up by 50%, and for a level 10 it went up by 33%. For non SS users it went up 20%.

It's a bit better on shotguns, but wow this gun change was like another big SS nerf in disguise.

Anyone with force fields have a comment on how they are now? Tempted to change and see if it makes me more survivable than the SS. I see the gap in them was reduced, and I had a bit harder time killing an FF guy (his shields broke before he died), but im not sure if it was just because his FF was low level or what. And my ping has been awful lately, so I couldn't tell if the shots hitting him and seemingly doing nothing were *actually* hitting him or not.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2010, 12:37:54 am by Paul »
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #173 on: September 20, 2010, 12:56:13 am »

Bladefury still seems horrifically overpowered. Seems like its BF10/Dash10/SS10, and at that point unless you have dash or frenzy you can't get away and die horrifically fast. I'm still trying to figure out what combination is supposed to be its counter, since nothing but shockwave and the direct damage spells do anything to a BF user.

If they do 3 damage, and in one second every blade hits, thats 75 damage in a second. I don't have the exact numbers, but that seems pretty darn close to the facts, so at that point pretty much one shot from anything will kill you.
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #174 on: September 20, 2010, 01:00:28 pm »

Bladefury still seems horrifically overpowered. Seems like its BF10/Dash10/SS10, and at that point unless you have dash or frenzy you can't get away and die horrifically fast. I'm still trying to figure out what combination is supposed to be its counter, since nothing but shockwave and the direct damage spells do anything to a BF user.

If they do 3 damage, and in one second every blade hits, thats 75 damage in a second. I don't have the exact numbers, but that seems pretty darn close to the facts, so at that point pretty much one shot from anything will kill you.
On the other hand they where nerfed by a fourth.
IDK he is still working on balence and making guns shootier helps fend off BF alot
 
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #175 on: September 20, 2010, 01:26:04 pm »

They don't explode on death anymore either, which is a nice change. That was kinda crazy hehe.
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #176 on: September 27, 2010, 01:52:45 am »

So the current plan of the game if giving skills disadvantages to balance them.

Also clan thanks to Paul and Darkone we are getting a rep for being pretty baddass
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Re: Subvein New Pacth !
« Reply #177 on: September 27, 2010, 10:30:21 am »

Pacth!
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Re: Subvein New Pacth ! Now with Balance!
« Reply #178 on: October 13, 2010, 11:57:48 am »

I like the new drawback system
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Re: Subvein New Pacth ! Now with Balance!
« Reply #179 on: March 14, 2011, 11:08:33 pm »

Bay12ers, including myself, still play this. The game averages 1 or 2 players on at a time, which is sad considering it's a great game. There was also a major patch that actually balanced things out a whole lot, but made some skills (static charges) ridiculously powerful.


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