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Author Topic: Mutant Factions| Subvein reborn onto Steam Green-light.  (Read 19447 times)

kulik

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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2010, 06:44:57 am »

It doesn't matter how balanced a game is, the advantage can give you the edge over somebody, who is better only because you play the game longer. The only thing i accept to beat somebody better is superior tactic and teamwork. M&B:Warband did it right for instance.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2010, 06:53:35 am »

Yea, but getting blade fury+dash+silver shield and running through the spawn pretty much absorbing bullets and killing everyone within a second isn't really fair.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2010, 07:11:27 am »

Well, from what I could figure out, if you focus all your points in one skill and it's something that actually works good for you, you may actually be able to do well in the game. Some things are overpowered right now and it seems like they may be getting nerfed, though. It took me several re-rolls to get to where I had something decent and playable, and the very last time, the creator of the game (bencelot) actually did a skill reset for me (preserving the skill points, e.g. I got to redistribute them all) - he's doing this for anyone who asks right now because the game is unbalanced and still being balanced. He did it for quite a few people tonight, and he was on and playing himself for at least several hours.

Right now I've got 10 points in vampirism, and the rest of my points (4+1 synergy point) in Energize. I energize my weapon (usually an M-60, or at the beginning of a round, a lot of grenades - yes, you can energize grenades) so it shoots faster, and shoots faster still with additional kills, and then I use the barrier to tank. The things that kill me tend to be skills like radiate or blade spam used by very high level players, or snipers with a railgun firing from across the map, from time to time (Goes right through barrier!). Of course, a railgun costs $50k and has a very limited supply of ammo. And you won't hit the person if they're moving around (or you will waste your ammo, and it's $25k for a refill). One player took to running me over with a car, then using radiate, and then hitting me with a baseball bat to finally kill me. Yes, the barrier can be that powerful if you aren't wasting your mana on other things, and if your attacker isn't using something capable of doing ungodly amounts of damage per second (And if you are using vampirism to steal HP from enemies at the same time).

One thing that renders most guns pretty much useless, though, is maxed-out bullet time. The bullets just don't reach the target, and with the add-on skills to bullet-time the user can make projectiles that fly out super fast after a couple seconds; they're dodgeable but only if you dodge before they launch from the bullet-time field, which is to say, predict where they are going to go and get out of the way.

And when the alternative to guns is, well, knives (or grenades! But those probably are affected by bullet time too)... And you can't HIT anyone except for bots with knives... (Of course, get enough community points and you get a bat, or laser sword instead)

I was playing tonight in a large game which the game's developer was also playing in, and his character is extremely difficult to kill (for me, at least)! However, at one point, while he was running towards me and there was a car between us, I managed to kill him in the most spectacular fashion: By blowing up the car with my M-60 while I was standing right next to it - and I survived the explosion with my health intact by having my barrier active (it absorbed the blast, draining mana instead). The next thing I said was "I can't believe that worked," referring to the fact that it actually killed him, rather than that I had survived. I had survived point blank car explosions previously by using barrier - they are otherwise quite fatal, however, but somehow I had expected him to be, I don't know, made of adamantium or something, as hard as it is to kill him normally.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2010, 07:14:30 am by Shadowlord »
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2010, 09:28:12 am »

It's not all that hard to knife. I'm levelling my invisibility and dash, it's pretty awesome and if you go mercenary the enemy gangsters don't shoot you.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2010, 03:30:27 pm »

Gah!
I wish I could delete my mutants.
 I have so many of them, because I can't find a satisfying build.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2010, 03:46:37 pm »

Mindmaker, make a post on the subvein forums asking Ben to reset your skills, and he'll do it for free. You can also ask him ingame if you see him online. It only takes a few seconds, and he doesn't seem to be bothered when someone asks him for a reset.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2010, 04:50:26 pm »

Not a reset.
I have like 6-8 mutants now.

Oh I amassed 11 points now.
Not sure on what skills I should spend it.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2010, 05:51:36 pm »

Damn, I focked my build with wrong picks. I need to reset it :P.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2010, 05:57:31 pm »

Just was ingame for first time and wanted to say mindmaker is pretty good.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2010, 05:59:15 pm »

I'm going with a nuker build, can't mess it up too much. =p
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« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2010, 06:40:33 pm »

Just was ingame for first time and wanted to say mindmaker is pretty good.

Are you sure we're talking about the same person?
I'm getting slaughtered by this behemoths all the time.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2010, 09:27:08 pm »

Gotta admit, fun game. BTW, Bay12 rocks.

How many times have we gotten the clan titles in matches?

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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2010, 12:19:04 am »

There's some guy who's totally cocky about "destroying" Bay12 and all the other clans, with his clan VG or something. The guy's constantly advertising his clan, which is allegedly one of the top 10 modern warfare 2 guilds in the world. He says he's bringing over tons of people to become the dominant force of the game. I think he's taking things too seriously.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2010, 02:24:10 am »

Yes well, a lot of clans take these competitive games seriously. It's how they have fun.
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Re: Subvein. Like MMO GTA 2 with more mutants
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2010, 03:29:22 am »

I love the CTF games. I wait at the start area with my invincibility and buy a rocket launcher. Just have to wait for someone to come by to take the flag and BOOM!
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