Eh? I've been jumped for buddying every other time I've mentioned that I think someone is town. I thought it was accepted strategy. Why should you be exempt?
I happen to think that everyone is exempt (except for a few situational things blah blah blah). I also find it interesting that you said "except at MyLo," which implies that there would be some logical structure behind your statements--rather than just "people jump on me when I do it, so I stopped."
I do too, which is why I just mentioned it, instead of turning it into an attack. I said "Except at MyLo" because MyLo and LyLo are the first times in a typical game when it becomes important to find proof that people are town.
This was your defense, Lonewolf? Saying someone is town is buddying but everyone is exempt, which was why you mentioned it but didn't do anything with it? This doesn't begin to answer what you were trying to accomplish and why.
A point for your consideration, whilst I catch up:
Assume I'm Cabal. Somehow, I use my winning smile and boyish charms to ensorcel members of the Tower: I convince Vector to jump to my defense on Day 1 and look like she's buddying me. After that, Jim and I butt heads for ~50 posts, and in the end I somehow manage to convince the Tower of my virtue, and earn enough Assists to beat Org.
Then, after winning the match and just as I cause Jim to doubt his accusations of me, I decide to burn that potential bridge and Cabal-kill him. Why not? 
Day 2 starts, and a case starts to build on Vector, primarily for her behavior in assisting me the day before. I decide to risk the small measure of security I'd earned and return the favor she inadvertently performed for me midway through Duel 1, in being the first to turn the Assist Votes around. I relate to everyone how her helping me doesn't make much sense for a Scum ploy, and therefore that she's likely to be Tower. This seems to satisfy the leaders of the case against her, and though it makes me look bad I might have earned a buddy.
Then, after taking that minor risk and investing energy into gaining a new buddy, I decide to Cabal-kill her too, again for the hell of it. Why not?
If it isn't plain enough, allow me to clarify. If I wanted Vector dead, I'd have jumped on the case against her and pushed her into the ring D2, rather than trying to turn the vote around, and in the process making myself look bad. Being the target of her actions, I'd have had a reasonable chunk of argumentative clout to bring to bear. That way, I would have saved my Nightkill for someone else.
I'm suspicious, but the basic premise seems correct...
Besides helping you, Vector and Jim had something else in common: they were active. Not something in overabundance right about now.
...except for the WIFOM and this. Sometimes there's just no one scum particularly wants to kill, and knocking off an active player who'd fingered you before and a player who's buddying had gotten you in trouble before might be very solid moves.
I was not intending on proposing a scenario that reeked of poor judgement and supidity, only to have you buy into it. I'm frankly a bit surprised.
I'd agree that Scum are indeed near to controlling the majority. As such, I'd assume that if I were Scum, I'd have people leaping to my defense now to secure the Cabal a win. However, I don't see that. Instead, I see Janus and Jokerman nodding in agreement that I should die instead of Leafsnail. Do you two not find this curious?
So you point out that if you were Cabal your buddies would openly defend you, then point out how suspicious it looks that both Janus and Jokerman are working against you.
HMMMMMM. PERHAPS CABAL WOULD LIKE TO BE A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE SO THEY DON'T GET CAUGHT IMMEDIATELY?
I remembered my opponent was "That L-Guy". I haven't finished catching up through today, much less started reading into my arena opponent, and whether or not they may be Scum... such that their cohorts would leap on their Opponent. :3
With 3-4 Cabal, I wouldn't deny that you two could indeed be Scum together, since your opinions pretty much fall in line with one another. It's within reason to think that That L-Guy is too, hence the vehemency here. To ensure the death of a Townie today is to more or less secure a Cabal victory.
So immediately after saying "Come on guys, my cabalbuddies would have my back!" you continue suggesting that Leafsnail and his proponents are scum working together.
I WONDER IF FORESEEING THIS WOULD MAKE THEM BE MORE SUBTLE ABOUT IT.
A clearly delineated train of logic that starts with the phrase "Assume I'm Cabal." Seriously. It doesn't get more WIFOM than that.
What the heck are you even seeing, Lonewolf? I'm pointing out the logical fallacy in the assumption that I'm Scum. I would have had to knowingly sabotage myself not once but twice, with nothing to gain from it at all. I would have stuck my neck out for nothing, and killed off the people who I had convinced (even if only partially) that I was town. How does that even remotely make sense?
If you think I'd do it for WIFOM, you're misguided. It's much easier to sit back and join the rabble than it is to present an original opinion, and it's safer.
And back on your soapbox about how you took risks and played by nobody's rules to... do what, again? Something about defending Vector made you look scummy?
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