Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[JanusTwoface]

I have no time today, will have more time tomorrow.

Extension

[Toaster]

I second the extension.  Hardly anyone is here these days.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Extension thirded. I'm on my phone, hopefully be back tonight.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Wait, this is Wizard Duel...there are no extensions.

[Toaster]

That's too bad, because only half the people have voted.  FOS anyone who hasn't voted yet.

[IronyOwl]

Lonewolf I and Solifuge. Limited options and out of time aren't my favorite reasons for voting, but here we are.

Lonewolf hasn't been doing much, and a lot of his content is... peculiar.

Spoiler: Example (click to show/hide)

I could unvote, or you could change your vote.  I think Jokerman is town.

You're buddying.

And you're being ridiculous.  Town reads are perfectly valid.

Valid, yes.  Relevant to discussion prior to MyLo? No.

Valid, yes.  Relevant to discussion prior to MyLo? No.

I disagree.  Explanation, please?  If you've uncovered some new piece of Mafia logic, I'm curious as to its foundations.

Eh?  I've been jumped for buddying every other time I've mentioned that I think someone is town.  I thought it was accepted strategy.  Why should you be exempt?

Calling someone town is buddying, but only because it's irrelevant prior to MyLo? Why doesn't who's town matter at that point? So then he backpedals and just says it's "accepted mafia strategy" to jump on someone for mentioning someone else is town. Strategy for what, and how does it work?


Solifuge has mostly disappeared again, and a lot of his earlier content was irrelevant or odd. His "which element is most powerful" question was quite possibly affinity fishing, but his defenses of it were oddly passive, like he was trying to weasel out of it by saying there's no pressure.

Spoiler: Example (click to show/hide)

Supposing you missed the "Answer at your Leisure" bit? It's not a demand, just a structured discussion topic. You don't have a problem with getting players to talk about a topic that is both relevant and completely safe, do you?

Seriously. I'm finding your reaction a might bit ridiculous, since you could say anything. You could create a false conception. You could talk about legitimate strategies to educate new players on the rules, as Jim did. You can not say anything too, if you don't feel so inclined. I fail to see this huge problem you're seeming to have trouble with.

Again, I take more issue with "Hey it's just a structured no-pressure discussion topic for you to answer at your leisure" than with the actual fishing, since the former makes it sound like useless banter. What was the point of the question in the first place, and why did you go to such lengths to mention that it's not a real question after the fact?

[Mephansteras]

The Glowing Tally Board
Jokerman-EXE: Leafsnail
Leafsnail: JanusTwoface, Toaster
Lonewolf I: IronyOwl, Jokerman-EXE, Toaster
Solifuge: JanusTwoface, IronyOwl, Jokerman-EXE
Toaster: Leafsnail



Vote phase ends in ~2 1/2 hours. There are no extensions in Wizard Duel.

[Lonewolf I]

Lonewolf I and Solifuge. Limited options and out of time aren't my favorite reasons for voting, but here we are.

Lonewolf hasn't been doing much, and a lot of his content is... peculiar.

Spoiler: Example (click to show/hide)

I could unvote, or you could change your vote.  I think Jokerman is town.

You're buddying.

And you're being ridiculous.  Town reads are perfectly valid.

Valid, yes.  Relevant to discussion prior to MyLo? No.

Valid, yes.  Relevant to discussion prior to MyLo? No.

I disagree.  Explanation, please?  If you've uncovered some new piece of Mafia logic, I'm curious as to its foundations.

Eh?  I've been jumped for buddying every other time I've mentioned that I think someone is town.  I thought it was accepted strategy.  Why should you be exempt?

Calling someone town is buddying, but only because it's irrelevant prior to MyLo? Why doesn't who's town matter at that point? So then he backpedals and just says it's "accepted mafia strategy" to jump on someone for mentioning someone else is town. Strategy for what, and how does it work?

You either missed my posts here and here, or you think they're not sufficient defense.   Please explain where they're lacking.

Lonewolf, you should remember why I am voting you.

I don't, actually, and I don't feel like looking for it right now.  Do refresh my memory.

Your first post of D3, and all you do is respond to my vote.  No attempt at scum hunting.

Been a bit distracted lately, and all my scumpicks were dead so I had no attacks to pick back up.
Solifuge and Leafsnail, as I'd rather not go into the ring.

[JanusTwoface]

Oops. Sorry Meph, didn't mean to start that, forgot the no extensions.

Solifuge: Die.

Leafsnail: I already posted my suspicions earlier and they haven't changed much. It's easy to say someone is lurked hunting when half the game is lurking somewhat fierce. I'll expound on everyone when I'm back at a computer.

PFP

[Mephansteras]

Due to a tie in the voting, lots were drawn between Leafsnail and Lonewolf I. Lonewolf I won the draw, and will be in the Duel.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you our next two Duelists. Returning champion Solifuge and his new opponent, Lonewolf I!!!!


Set-up phase has started. It will go until ~5pm Pacific Monday

[Leafsnail]

So Leaf, I've been calling Lonewolf scum since the first assist phase.  I don't see where you get me calling no one scum.

Well, the only things I can find that are remotely close are

Therefore, either your scumhunting has no teeth or you already know his alignment (ergo you are scum.)

Emphasis mine.  This isn't an accusation.  I guess you switch to

Get your battle wand out, scum.

But then, later on...

You're back to not calling him scum again.  And then the fantastic

Hmph.  I simply can't agree with you there.

Truly hard hitting words against someone you've supposedly been convinced is scum since day one.

And so on, so forth.

Speaking of not paying attention, why are you asking Vector questions?  In answer to your question, yes, I am fairly sure Lonewolf is scum.  You I'm less sure about, but your severe lack of attention to the game isn't helping your case.

"I'm gonna keep asking useless questions and making ridiculously weak accusations until you leave me alone".

Seriously, this is retarded.

I write part of my post before seeing the outcome of the duel, and accidentally leave it in.

You take this as a scumtell.  I'm actually curious now - in what possible way is this something scum is more likely to do than town?  Could it be that, I dunno, you made up a completely bullshit point in order to "counterattack" slightly at the end of the post (while not calling me scum)?

[Toaster]

So Leaf, I've been calling Lonewolf scum since the first assist phase.  I don't see where you get me calling no one scum.

Well, the only things I can find that are remotely close are

Therefore, either your scumhunting has no teeth or you already know his alignment (ergo you are scum.)

Emphasis mine.  This isn't an accusation.  I guess you switch to

Get your battle wand out, scum.

But then, later on...

You're back to not calling him scum again.  And then the fantastic

Do I need to put "PS you're scum" at the bottom of every post I direct at Lonewolf?

Hmph.  I simply can't agree with you there.

Truly hard hitting words against someone you've supposedly been convinced is scum since day one.

That's where I realize following that thread is pointless because his defense is "RVS questions don't matter!"  I can say "Yes they do" all day long and get nowhere.

Speaking of not paying attention, why are you asking Vector questions?  In answer to your question, yes, I am fairly sure Lonewolf is scum.  You I'm less sure about, but your severe lack of attention to the game isn't helping your case.

"I'm gonna keep asking useless questions and making ridiculously weak accusations until you leave me alone".

Seriously, this is retarded.

I write part of my post before seeing the outcome of the duel, and accidentally leave it in.

You take this as a scumtell.  I'm actually curious now - in what possible way is this something scum is more likely to do than town?  Could it be that, I dunno, you made up a completely bullshit point in order to "counterattack" slightly at the end of the post (while not calling me scum)?

Town needs to pay close attention to the thread to pick up on subtleties.  Scum can get away with a lighter read since they already know alignments.  It is a weak point, and one more motivated to get your reaction.  Going by it, I'm thinking it was benign.

My more severe issue with you was your active lurking.  If you start actually participating more, then I'll stop going after you for lurking.



Anyway, Soli is lurking hard, but Lonewolf is scummy.  Assist Solifuge with Fire Attack.

[Solifuge]

I was about to shout EXTENSION so I could review, but... yeah, Wizards Duel.

I have no excuse, other than the fact that I'm notoriosly shitty at keeping up with all the things I'm involved in. My interest is a mercurial thing, and I have so many Irons in the Fire. So many.

Allow me a bit to review the events of the past few days. I've honestly read nothing since... what, pre-duel on Day 2?

Meph, never allow me into one of these games again.

[JanusTwoface]

Assist Lonewolf I with Earth Defense

Assisting against Solifuge because Solifuge is scum.  I've already said why, I was voting him.  I don't really see Lonewolf I's scumminess.

Defense to counter Toaster's Attack.

[Solifuge]

A point for your consideration, whilst I catch up:

Assume I'm Cabal. Somehow, I use my winning smile and boyish charms to ensorcel members of the Tower: I convince Vector to jump to my defense on Day 1 and look like she's buddying me. After that, Jim and I butt heads for ~50 posts, and in the end I somehow manage to convince the Tower of my virtue, and earn enough Assists to beat Org.

Then, after winning the match and just as I cause Jim to doubt his accusations of me, I decide to burn that potential bridge and Cabal-kill him. Why not?

Day 2 starts, and a case starts to build on Vector, primarily for her behavior in assisting me the day before. I decide to risk the small measure of security I'd earned and return the favor she inadvertently performed for me midway through Duel 1, in being the first to turn the Assist Votes around. I relate to everyone how her helping me doesn't make much sense for a Scum ploy, and therefore that she's likely to be Tower. This seems to satisfy the leaders of the case against her, and though it makes me look bad I might have earned a buddy.

Then, after taking that minor risk and investing energy into gaining a new buddy, I decide to Cabal-kill her too, again for the hell of it. Why not?

If it isn't plain enough, allow me to clarify. If I wanted Vector dead, I'd have jumped on the case against her and pushed her into the ring D2, rather than trying to turn the vote around, and in the process making myself look bad. Being the target of her actions, I'd have had a reasonable chunk of argumentative clout to bring to bear. That way, I would have saved my Nightkill for someone else.