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[Vector]

I think a scumteam is feeding him answers.  I don't think Ottofar would come up with the "when I flip tower" line alone.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Vector, do you mean Leafsnail?

Anyway, Leafsnail and Ottofar; why do you think Jim Groovester was targetted by the Cabal, instead of anyone else?

He was going to vote for me, as he stated multiple times, and I was already being suspected.

What are you saying here? It feels like you're throwing out WIFOM. Are those the only reasons you can think of?

Yeah, it's kinda WIFOM-esque, but yeah, pretty much. And that Jim has experience.

According to those reasons, then, you stand to benefit greatly from his death. Doesn't that make you scum, by your own logic?

[Vector]

No, I mean that I don't think Ottofar would have come up with that complaint by himself.

[Leafsnail]

I don't care whether you want to lynch me for lurking or not, but if you do, just make sure you go after anyone who went for the easy option and didn't do anything else.

Is Ottofar tower or scum?  Honestly, I'm not sure.  It doesn't seem hugely likely that a 6 person bandwagon would form on scum so easily though.

[Vector]

Bleh.

Leafsnail, why did you lurk for five days and not even show up to say "hi, currently disinterested, back later?"

[JanusTwoface]

I'd like to point out we have 3 people who did nothing except vote 2 lurkers and act passive.  That doesn't exactly scream town.

What exactly do you expect us to do if people aren't even posting to work with?  At least we're playing.

I don't really have any reason you should lynch Ottofar over me, and I kindof deserve it.  However, make sure those who decided to go for the two easiest targets don't get a free ride when I flip tower.

Especially with such a 'meh' defense.  Although other than actually bringing some solid suspicions to the table if you do end up dead, I don't know what you could do at this point.

Also

...when I flip tower.

I find this part scummy.

Is this all you have?  Something a little more concrete would be nice.  (Yes I read your later extension of this, wasn't much there either.)

Is Ottofar tower or scum?  Honestly, I'm not sure.  It doesn't seem hugely likely that a 6 person bandwagon would form on scum so easily though.

Why not?

[Vector]

My personal suspicion is that we've caught two scum, and Leafsnail is sacrificing himself to protect Ottofar.

That, or Leafsnail is just a disinterested townie and someone is feeding Ottofar answers.

Either way, I'm pretty sure that Ottofar's scum.

[JanusTwoface]

My personal suspicion is that we've caught two scum, and Leafsnail is sacrificing himself to protect Ottofar.

But why would Leafsnail do that?  Either is decently likely to get thrown back into the ring tomorrow the way things are going, but I think Leafsnail would fair better than Ottofar (assuming that either was being more active).

[Vector]

I was thinking PR reasons, personally.

[Toaster]

Ottofar:  Your defense screams of you merely attacking the guy who you're up against just to save yourself, as well as two counts of "this experienced person said it, so it must be true!"  Do you have anything more concrete?  Who do you suspect besides Leafsnail?

Vector:  If Otto's being fed answers, who is doing it?  You've fed him answers before, so you should be able to pick it out.

[Vector]

Vector:  If Otto's being fed answers, who is doing it?  You've fed him answers before, so you should be able to pick it out.

Excuse me?  "I've fed him answers before, so I should be able to pick it out?"  No, sorry, I don't yet know how to read who the scumteam is through the play of the manipulatee.

Meh.  I'll give my best guesses.

It isn't me.
Sincerely doubt JTF or Solifuge--I think JTF is town, and Solifuge has never latched onto those sorts of details.
Doubt Criptfeind.

That leaves... everyone else.  In there, I think the most probably are Toaster, Leafsnail, and maybe IronyOwl.

[Mephansteras]

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[JanusTwoface]

I don't see any particular reason to assist either of you.

No assist.

[Ottofar]

I think a scumteam is feeding him answers.  I don't think Ottofar would come up with the "when I flip tower" line alone.

I am deeply hurt by your words. When I see someone complain about tells, I remember it.

Vector, do you mean Leafsnail?

Anyway, Leafsnail and Ottofar; why do you think Jim Groovester was targetted by the Cabal, instead of anyone else?

He was going to vote for me, as he stated multiple times, and I was already being suspected.

What are you saying here? It feels like you're throwing out WIFOM. Are those the only reasons you can think of?

Yeah, it's kinda WIFOM-esque, but yeah, pretty much. And that Jim has experience.

According to those reasons, then, you stand to benefit greatly from his death. Doesn't that make you scum, by your own logic?

Or easy target to lynch for scum.

I'd guess Jokerman is scum. Not too sure about Leafsnail.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Anyway, Leafsnail and Ottofar; why do you think Jim Groovester was targetted by the Cabal, instead of anyone else?

He was going to vote for me, as he stated multiple times, and I was already being suspected.

What are you saying here? It feels like you're throwing out WIFOM. Are those the only reasons you can think of?

Yeah, it's kinda WIFOM-esque, but yeah, pretty much. And that Jim has experience.

According to those reasons, then, you stand to benefit greatly from his death. Doesn't that make you scum, by your own logic?
[/quote]
Or easy target to lynch for scum.

I'd guess Jokerman is scum. Not too sure about Leafsnail.
[/quote]

...huh?

I was asking you a question as to what you thought. That's scummy, now? Deflecting.