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Author Topic: Wizard Duel 4 - Duel 7 - Game over! All Hail Criptfeind!  (Read 52217 times)

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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2010, 12:43:34 am »

But that's part of his strategy town or scum. If he does this every game, town or scum, how can you be so certain of him being scum now?

I feel a difference in my bones.  Though in general I'm not a gut-player, this time I feel something.  There is a difference.  Not one that I can establish via some large body of evidence, but I sense that something new is there.


But I digress. Vector, do you mean to demonstrate that it's safer to cloak your statements in hypersuspicion with a hint of brimstone, rather than to lynch-vote someone with a smile on your face?

I mean only to find scum and eat them.  The methods are irrelevant.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2010, 12:51:31 am »

I feel a difference in my bones.  Though in general I'm not a gut-player, this time I feel something.  There is a difference.  Not one that I can establish via some large body of evidence, but I sense that something new is there.

Very well. I can respect a player who trust his or her gut feeling, because I very much do the same.

I'll grant you some leeway for now.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2010, 12:52:16 am »

The Glowing Tally Board
JanusTwoface: Jim Groovester, Org
Jetsquirrel: Toaster
Jim Groovester: JanusTwoface, Jokerman-EXE, Org
Jokerman-EXE: Toaster
Leafsnail: Criptfeind, Vector
Org: JanusTwoface, Jim Groovester, Jokerman-EXE
Ottofar: Lonewolf I
Solifuge: Lonewolf I, Vector
Toaster: Solifuge
Vector: Criptfeind, Solifuge



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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2010, 01:15:07 am »

General question for all (answer at your leisure):
- There are benefits and costs to each affinity. What is the most powerful Elemental Affinity, in your mind?

From a strategic perspective I'm digging Fire, as one basic Fire Attack Assist would boost your Attack by +4 (a specialist would grant +6). Weighing Attack Power versus Speed, it doesn't matter how many attacks you can get in, if you can't overcome your opponent's Defenses. A higher Attack means better odds of punching through shields, and a more reliable damage output overall. The cost in the most powerful Healing Assists is a small one, since Healing seems to play a bit role in combat.


I feel a difference in my bones.  Though in general I'm not a gut-player, this time I feel something.  There is a difference.  Not one that I can establish via some large body of evidence, but I sense that something new is there.

I feel a difference on my right knee. Though in general I'm not a sentimental person, this time I feel something. There is a difference. One that is established via some small body of sleeping kittenishness, and I sense that something friggin' adorable is there.
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« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2010, 01:24:19 am »

Unvote.  You now sound like an irritated townie, which clears my suspicions for the nonce.

Soo... Ottofar, what do you think about this game thus far?  Has anyone jumped out at you as particularly scummy?
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2010, 01:46:02 am »

General question for all (answer at your leisure):
- There are benefits and costs to each affinity. What is the most powerful Elemental Affinity, in your mind?

From a strategic perspective I'm digging Fire, as one basic Fire Attack Assist would boost your Attack by +4 (a specialist would grant +6). Weighing Attack Power versus Speed, it doesn't matter how many attacks you can get in, if you can't overcome your opponent's Defenses. A higher Attack means better odds of punching through shields, and a more reliable damage output overall. The cost in the most powerful Healing Assists is a small one, since Healing seems to play a bit role in combat.

The combat is balanced enough that no elemental affinity has any obvious advantage.

If you have a combat role, like a War Mage or a Battle Mage, it'd be a good idea to match your affinity so that assists to your primary attribute are maximized. So if you're a Battle Mage, or whichever one gives you a +2 bonus to attack, you probably want to pick Fire so that attack assists are doubled. JTF ran some tests in the last game where he concluded that stacking assists on one attribute are in general more effective than spreading them all over the place, so that's the logic behind that.

If I recall correctly, upping your speed can have some pretty drastic effects in combat. Not only do you get to attack twice a round frequently, but each time you get +4 to Speed you get +1 to Attack and Defense. Potent stuff. Best to choose Air if you're a Time Mage to maximize that. I'm not sure that little bit of information is documented in the rules, but that might not be surprising since there are little tidbits here and there that we have to keep reminding people about. For example, did you know there are no extensions?

And don't dismiss healing. The effect is constant, and attack rolls and defense rolls vary from -10 to +10, so there could be a few rounds where you don't get damaged at all, which means you get a steady stream of HP back, which could prove a critical advantage in combat. Choosing Water as your affinity might not be a bad idea, especially if you're a Warrior Mage and get that shiny +10 bonus to hitpoints.

If you're Cabal, though, picking Dark has some serious advantages. You risk detection, but the ability to shortchange any assist you give as well as not being vulnerable to double damage if your opponent picks your opposing element can be of pretty serious benefit.

But what are you worrying about combat for? You should be focusing on finding scum. You're not expecting to spend a lot of time in the ring, are you, Solifuge? Tower should be avoiding combat at all cost. Only the Cabal should be preparing to spend any amount of time in the ring. The only way out of the ring is through the Medical Ward, and if you're caught you want to take as many Tower wizards with you as you can.
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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2010, 08:13:35 am »

Unvote.  You now sound like an irritated townie, which clears my suspicions for the nonce.

Soo... Ottofar, what do you think about this game thus far?  Has anyone jumped out at you as particularly scummy?

We-ell. No. Not really.

But, Jim Groovester and Org, how would you feel about going in the ring?

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Re: Wizard Duel 4 - Day 1 Vote Phase
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2010, 09:36:07 am »

i vote for Vector
As i dont trust that gut feeling of yours and i also feel something wrong about you

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« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2010, 09:39:51 am »

But what are you worrying about combat for? You should be focusing on finding scum. You're not expecting to spend a lot of time in the ring, are you, Solifuge? Tower should be avoiding combat at all cost. Only the Cabal should be preparing to spend any amount of time in the ring. The only way out of the ring is through the Medical Ward, and if you're caught you want to take as many Tower wizards with you as you can.

We each have our own methods of scumhunting. Also, any player who hopes to win the tournament (whether Tower or Cabal) need to give combat some thought. Despite our best efforts, we will have Town going into the ring pretty regularly, and it's best for players to go into it as informed as possible.

Conclusion: Talking combat strategy is Pro-Town, in that any player who isn't putting on a "I'm Really Not Cabal!" mask is going to need to focus on it, and it helps the misvoted to survive their trials.
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« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2010, 10:29:16 am »

But, Jim Groovester and Org, how would you feel about going in the ring?

Why, I feel quite opposed to it right now! Especially when people drop random votes on me for no other reason than I already have random votes!

Unvote all.

Ottofar, what are you doing random voting people who already have three random votes, pal? What do you hope to accomplish?

i vote for Vector
As i dont trust that gut feeling of yours and i also feel something wrong about you

Elaborate, squirrelface.
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« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2010, 11:20:05 am »

But that's part of his strategy town or scum. If he does this every game, town or scum, how can you be so certain of him being scum now?

I feel a difference in my bones.  Though in general I'm not a gut-player, this time I feel something.  There is a difference.  Not one that I can establish via some large body of evidence, but I sense that something new is there.


But I digress. Vector, do you mean to demonstrate that it's safer to cloak your statements in hypersuspicion with a hint of brimstone, rather than to lynch-vote someone with a smile on your face?

I mean only to find scum and eat them.  The methods are irrelevant.

i got exaclty the same feeling about him

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« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2010, 11:35:03 am »

That's not really sufficient coming from you.

Sad to say, there are different standards for different players. I'd expect Vector to have a decent hunch in a while, because she's a good player. Can't say I'd expect you to have the same.

So if you want to slide on by with your hunch, you're going to have to tell me exactly what makes you think that.
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« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2010, 12:20:24 pm »

That's not really sufficient coming from you.

Sad to say, there are different standards for different players. I'd expect Vector to have a decent hunch in a while, because she's a good player. Can't say I'd expect you to have the same.

So if you want to slide on by with your hunch, you're going to have to tell me exactly what makes you think that.

SHE?!?!?
Since i admit i suck in mafia games now (played 2 games Begginer magia 1 and wizard duel 1) i cannot make proper decisions and badnwagoning people gets you in trouble most of the time. so i voted for her? to look how she and other people would react towards me. and thats all i can think off

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« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2010, 12:46:48 pm »

But that's part of his strategy town or scum. If he does this every game, town or scum, how can you be so certain of him being scum now?

I feel a difference in my bones.  Though in general I'm not a gut-player, this time I feel something.  There is a difference.  Not one that I can establish via some large body of evidence, but I sense that something new is there.


But I digress. Vector, do you mean to demonstrate that it's safer to cloak your statements in hypersuspicion with a hint of brimstone, rather than to lynch-vote someone with a smile on your face?

I mean only to find scum and eat them.  The methods are irrelevant.

i got exaclty the same feeling about him

I gotta say, man, if you feel a difference in playstyle... you'd better be playing with somebody whose gender you know.

SERIOUSLY.
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« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2010, 01:33:39 pm »

so you are a man or a woman? as Jim confused me
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