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Author Topic: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tag Tournament #2: Championships!  (Read 49190 times)

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An Introduction

What is this?

A Fight to the death! Dwarf, Human, Elf, and countless other creatures locked in Mortal Combat!
Arrows Flying! Swords Slashing! Blood and Guts Spread Across the Arena Floor!

To what end?

Countless Riches? No
Honor? Glory? Fame? Perhaps
To be recognized as the strongest, fastest, or cleverest? Most Assuredly
But most importantly, to earn the title:

CHAMPION OF THE ARENA

You'll be the best! Songs will be song about your skills in the ring! Your name will never be forgotten!

At least until the next tournament...

Who came up with this?

It wasn't me, I assure you! In fact, it was our lovely friends at the SomethingAwful forums who deserve the credit.   
One Bard, in particular, deserves high praise indeed!
He is the Founder of the Fight, the Mediator of Discord, the Grand Master himself!

Vox Nihili

We are but feint imitators in comparison

What Format Will the Tournaments Take?

There are many possibilities: Single-Elimination, Double Elimination, Round Robin, etc. It could be Team based, or a Free For All!. The format for any particular tournament will be decided by the Arena Master beforehand.      

How many people can join a tournament?

It Depends on the format and how much interest there is! However, typical sizes are 16, 32, or 64.

How do I join?

It's easy! Usually you'll just have to post a message declaring your interest, and include your Gladiator's name and race!


I don't know much about Dwarf Fortress. What race is best? What Weapons and Armor should I use?

Only the base essentials are provided in the thread. Since this is competitive, its up to you to figure out whats best. Feel free to ask any questions in the thread or on the forums. A good source of information is the Dwarf fortress wiki found at http://df.magmawiki.com.

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Overview and Rules
These Rules( including the point system ) were originally developed by the esteemed Vox Nihili at the SomethingAwful forums

The Arena Master

   The Arena Master runs the tournament. His or Her duties are extensive. They include, but are not limited to, the following: Maintaing and updating these rules, recruitment, running the battles and writing commentary, and settling all disputes that may arise in a just and timely manner. It is essential that the Arena Master remain fair and unbiased. I, Josephus, shall humbly serve in as the Arena Master for this tournament, and pray that my brain doesn't fry under the strain..

Joining as a Gladiator

   Before the start of a tournament the Arena Master will decide on the tournament format, including whether or not a gladiator's skills and equipment will be known to all or kept secret. The first is called a Open Tournament and the latter is called a Blind tournament. The tournament format will also dictate the number of gladiators who may join, or at least a series of upper limits. For example, in a single elimination tournament typical sizes are 16, 32, 64, etc. In order to join, all you must do is announce your intention to join in this thread, along with your Gladiator's name and race. If its an open tournament, you will need to post your skills and equipment purchases in the thread before the start of the first match, while in a blind tournament you must send them directly to the Arena Master.
   In the event that too many Gladiators wish to spill their blood, the Arena Master may, at his or her discretion: extend the joining period, deny entry outright to the extra combatants, or call for a battle royal to decide who gets the final spot in the tournament. It's first come first serve*, so sign up as early as possible.

*In future tournaments, gladiators who fought in the preceding tournament will have the right-of-way, and a non-random seeding system may be implemented.

About the Tournament

   The subsequent post will lay out the details of the current tournament, including whether or not it will be an open or blind tournament, what system it will follow(Single-Elimination, Round Robin, etc.), whether or not its a team game, etc. If there is something that is not clear, please ask.

The Arena

   The fighting will take place in the center ring that can be found in arena mode. Constestants will be placed opposite each other, on the east and west sides of the ring.

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The Version

   The newest version of DF will be used assuming combat and other relevant game mechanics weren't broken. The same version will be used throughout the tournament. The version being used for the current tournament will be listed in the Tournament overview in the next post.

The Races

   The most important decision you'll have to make before the start of the tournament is what race your gladiator will be. Which race you chose will determine what equipment you can use, how much damage you can inflict, grant you special abilities, or even extra limbs.
   Your race will also determine how many points you get to spend on equipment and skills before each round.  This is mainly for balance reasons, but also to represent smaller creatures cleverness.
   The most important distinction between the races, besides the points they receive, is their size. Size effects the amount of damage they will inflict*, and their ability to knock their opponent over. Gladiators that have been knocked over have a nasty tendency to get pulverized(unless they are wearing some nice armor), and is thus a position you'll wish to avoid. Thus, the ability to dodge out of the way is often a crucial skill for smaller players to have. For this reason, races classified as "tiny" get a 20% reduction in the price of dodging skills while races classified as "huge" must pay 20% more.
*smaller creatures can generally match their larger counterparts in slashing and stabbing attacks, but bigger opponents are much better at bashing and punching
   Some of the more fanciful races have different or extra appendages compared to your average humanoid. This may allow them to wield extra weaponry or armor, but it also may mean they can't use certain items. These differences are listed under the special abilities category.
   All creatures have attributes that can affect their performance in battle: Strength, Agility, Toughness, Endurance, Disease Resistance, and Recuperation. Your creatures attributes are determined by the amount of skill they have, but are distributed randomly. However, many of the different races have innate modifiers to certain attributes, which may give them an edge in battle.

Races may also have special abilities. For instance, many of the animal-like races can bite in unarmed combat.

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Points

   Points are the life blood any worthy gladiator. The way you spend them will determine your success in the ring.
   As stated in the previous section, the amount of points you get to spend before the tournament depends on your gladiator's race. If you manage to win a match, you will earn the same amount of points to spend on the next round. You do not have to spend any points to heal yourself.
   You may spend points on Equipment and Skills, which are summarized below.
   
Skills

   Your gladiator can purchase skills before the start of each round. Skills can be upgraded as many  as 14 times, the first level being Novice and the last being Grand Master.
   The first level of each skill is assigned a base price, and the price of each subsequent level is equal to the base price of the skill multiplied by the level of the skill you are purchasing. For example, if your gladiator was a Level 2("Adequate") fighter and wished to purchase the 4th level, it would cost 3 * 3 + 3 * 4 f=  9 points. 3 is the base cost and does not change, multiplied by the levels to be purchased. Note that the cost is cumulative: you must buy all the preceding levels!
   What each skill does is fairly self explanatory. Please go to the Dwarf Fortress wiki or ask on the forums if you are unfamiliar with any particular skill.

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Equipment

   As you've probably surmised, your gladiator will be able to purchase an assortment of equipment, made out of various materials, to wield  in the arena. Equipment can be divided up into two categories: Weapons and Armor.

   Note that you cannot make weapons, shields or bucklers, out of leather.

        You may sell back equipment before each round for half its original value. You may NOT sell skills back.

   A longsword has a base price of 24; if its made of of steel, which has a "cost multiplier" of 4, the total value will be 96 points.

Materials

   Materials have gotten complicated in Dwarf Fortress of late. In terms of combat, though, materials have 3 primary properties: Weight, Edge, and Stopping Power. [I take no credit for this chart, its taken directly from the SA thread]

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Weapons

   Weapons and Shields(including bucklers), are held in your gladiator's hands. Depending on the race, it may take one-hand or 2-hands to wield any particular object, or they may not be able to wield it at all. Please look at the Race table for a summary. Unless you are fighting unarmed, you should try to use all your hands in combat. Once again, if you have any questions about the abilities a weapon or piece of armor, please feel free to ask, but check the wiki first.

Bows come with 35 free arrows and Crossbows with 35 free bolts and are the same material as the ranged weapon.

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ARMOR

   Generally, you can only wear one of any type of armor. Think in terms of body parts, and test your combination out in dwarf fortress to see if it works. If you (or I) notice a problem after the current round is underway, it can't be fixed until the current round is over. For example, you can't wear both leggings and greaves or low boots and high boots at the same time. There are two exceptions though: you may wear a leather cap under a helm, and you may wear a (non-leather) mail shirt under a breast plate. Gloves, Gauntlets and boots come in sets of two. Also note that shields take up a hand-slot, and aren't worn as such. Shields may also be used as weapons and are dependent on the Misc. object skill.

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Google Document
All the rules and spreadsheets are available as a Google document. Check it out here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmCZedymX32wdDBVX3hXMHUzamo5WkRfX2pDQjVQNWc&hl=en&authkey=CKC3xsAO If you find any errors please tell me.

Conclusion
   That *should* cover everything. A summary and overview are covered in the next post. In the future, there will be an additional History section where past tournaments will be recorded, and perhaps a gladiator history as well space permitting. What follows is a history of the rule changes. Right now, it only shows the modifications I made to the SA rules.
   
Rule Changes

From SA 2nd edition
-Divided all the point values by 5. I think its easier, and also gives our version a different look.
-Reduced Dodging penalty and bonuses to huge and tiny creatures respectively from 25% to 20%. I did this to remove the fraction that popped when I divided everything by 5, but also because tiny creatures get waay more points than huge ones.
-Your leftover points are now doubled for the next round! Two reasons: 1. It gives you another choice. You may endanger your gladiator in the current round in hopes of being stronger in the next. 2. Left over points often are of the fractional form. Doubling them may make them whole for the next round.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 01:45:34 am by Josephus »
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2010, 05:53:07 am »

Settings
Format: Tag Elimination
Open - Skills, Equipment Choices are public knowledge
Initial Seeding: Random
Initial Teammate will not be known until after your skills and equipments are set. Ditto for your initial opponents.
Number of Participants: 32
Version: 0.31.12

Gladiators

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Tourney Bracket

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Eliminations
Match 1: The Smith and Turamuthro versus MadJax and The Grey Fiend
Match 2: Maple Willow Aspen and Gutstabberson, son of Gutstabber versus Special K and Tiny
Match 3: SLEDGE!! and Hawkeyed Prick versus Great Sword and The Pointy End
Match 4: The Horned Axe and The Paralyzer versus Urist McAxedorf and Mr. Pokey
Match 5: Scabs McStingsalot and Kobold Fale versus Kilakan and ACANTHOR
Match 6:Spanner and Mr. Stabs versus Imacutyourface and Gannon
Match 7: Ravus Maniacus and Melvin the Mace versus Eclipse and OW! Bitey!
Match 8: Queen Sting and Mollie versus Vox and The Spartan


Quarter Finals
Match One: The Smith and Turamuthro versus Maple Willow Aspen and Gutstabberson, son of Gutstabber
Match Two: Great Sword and The Pointy End versus Mr. Pokey and Urist McAxedorf
Match Three: Kilakan and ACANTHOR versus Spanner and Mr. Stabs
Match Four: Ravus Maniacus and Melvin the Mace versus Vox and The Spartan

Semi-Finals
Match One: Maple Willow Aspen and Gutstabberson, son of Gutstabber versus Great Sword and the Pointy End
Match Two: Spanner and Mr. Stabs versus Vox and The Spartan, handled by Arthur Wilborn

Finals
Battle for Third Place: Spanner and Mr. Stabs versus Great Sword and the Pointy End



Exhibition Matches
Match 1 care of Arthur Wilborn, sponsored by the North American Spine Society
Match 2 also care of Arthur Wilborn. Hell yes!

Match 4, care of GUESS WHO? That's right, Arthur Wilborn!
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 09:16:09 pm by Josephus »
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 05:53:39 am »

Sign ups are Closed

1. Mr. Stabs, Kobold (Flagrarus)
2. Madjax, Goblin (Madjax)
3. Special K, Kobold (Prepaid Lenin)
4. OW! Bitey!, Snakeman (mrbobbyg)
5. The Smith, Minotaur (Duriel)
6. The Horned Axe, Minotaur (Dariush)
7. Maple Willow Aspen, Dwarf Hippy (Mysteriousbluepuppet)
8. Gutstabberson, son of Gutstabber, Minotaur (Howells)
9. Ravus Maniacus, Dwarf (RavingManiac)
10. Turamuthro, Human (TurkeyXIII)
11. ACANTHOR, Minotaur (Acanthus117)
12. The Grey Fiend, Werewolf (MetalSlimeHunt)
13. Scabs McStingsalot, Kobold (Pisano)
14. Mr. Pokey, Soldier Ant Woman (Breadbocks)
15. Mollie, Dwarf female (Barconis)
16. Melvin the Mace, Goblin (Carpman)
17. Great Sword, Human (LAAT501Legion)
18. Gannon, Dark Gnome (Gannondorf)
19. Eclipse, Male Elf (Eclipsetail)
20. Queen Sting, Soldier Ant Woman (Kregoth)

21. Spanner, Kobold (Mekboy)
22. Hawkeyed Prick, Elf (Yugi24862)
23. Paralyzer, Snakeman (Wyrms)

24. The Pointy End, Elf (ArthurWilborn)
25. The Spartan, Human (Mountain-King)
26. Kobold Fale, Kobold (LordSlowpoke)
27. Kilakan, Yeti, (Kilakan)
28. SLEDGE!!, Human (Areku)
29. Vox, Dwarf (Vox Nihili)
30. Imacutyourface, Gremlin, (Dwarf mc Dwarf)
31. Tiny, Minotaur, (Calrogman)

32. Urist mcAxedorf, Gremlin (mipe9)
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 06:20:09 am »

Mr. Stabs, Kobold
Adamantium Spear (240)
Skilled Spear User (50)

...I apologize in advance to whoever ends up as my teammate  :P


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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2010, 06:35:04 am »

MadJax, Goblin

Talented Sword (126)
Steel Sword (80)
Skilled Fighting (30)
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2010, 07:32:24 am »

I'm in.

Special K, Kobold

Steel Battle Axe - 96
Adept Axebold - 168
Competent Dodging - 24

Total - 288

2 Remainder.

Special K is THE BERZERKER KOBOLD!


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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2010, 07:34:34 am »

OW! Bitey!

Snakeman

Skilled Striker  (30)
Talented Biter (84)
Bronze Breastplate (40)
Steel Helm (48)

He is going to bite you, there is nothing I can do to stop it.  Hopefully I'll get paired with someone who can, ya know, actually do some damage.

(Edit, I'm going to lower that breastplate to bronze...I want adamantine mail next round...)
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!!Elves!! would actually be kinda cool as a civ symbol.  !!Clowns!!, however, you get the impression they're on fire of their own free, malicious, evil, will.

Also, much scarier if literally clowns.

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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2010, 07:38:23 am »

Well, that's four out of 32.
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2010, 07:44:21 am »

I'm in too.

Name: The Smith
Race: Minotaur [140]

Adequate Hammerman [-12]
Adequate Dodger (huge) [-12]
Novice Armor User [-2]

Silver Maul [-32]
Bronze mail shirt [-48]
Bronze chain leggings [-28]

6 points left.
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2010, 08:20:37 am »

Name: Dariush
Race: Minotaur (140)

Bronze battle axe (48)
Copper helm (15)
Bronze breastplate (40)
Equipment total:103

Competent Axemanminotaur (36)
1 point remains.

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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2010, 08:39:59 am »

In, give me a few min to make it
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 08:50:19 am »

e: updated stats on page 7
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 09:11:04 am »

Maple Williow Aspen, Dwarf hippy.
240

Competent Fighter (-18)
Proficient Lashing (-50)
Novice Dodger (-5)
Talented Shield user (-84)


Silver Lash (-12)
Oak Shield (-45)

Points left :26

Edited : Bronze to Silver lash
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2010, 09:18:56 am »


Bronze Lash (-24)


I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure heavier material like silver work better with whips.
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Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament #2: Tag Team Edition
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 09:25:46 am »


Bronze Lash (-24)


I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure heavier material like silver work better with whips.

you are rght, i'll modify him
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