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rknewell

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« on: August 21, 2010, 07:11:35 pm »

Last post I found on this was in 08, so my apologies if I missed one sooner.

I've been having a minor problem recently, I keep forgetting which trash dump I currently have active, the one with the magma or the one without the magma. It suddenly occurred to me, why not have separate zones and designations for Garbage dumps and Dumping and Incineration chutes and Incinerating? Cleaning out the heaps of rock and metal in a room is something where I'd rather not have it all go in the magma, but goblins corpses do go in the magma.

Also, generalize Melt as Recycle, clothing is torn back down to leather and cloth, metal is melted, ect. Possibly one more for torching wooden items into charcoal.

Ooooh we could have Elf Christmas then, where the elves bring fuel for the forges!

Basically just reiterating an old idea, but I think it could use some light of day.
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Pilsu

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Re: Designations
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 10:44:31 am »

We shouldn't have to use dumping to clear space in the first place.
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Re: Designations
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 01:29:54 pm »

I know there's a recent thread about this...

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=56398.msg1344595#msg1344595

And in THAT thread, there was this:

This is a good idea which has had a few dedicated threads already:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=33782.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=5966.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19886.0

Plus some tangential mentions in other threads:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=47089.msg1012831#msg1012831
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4189.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3569.msg53889#msg53889
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=24412.0
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4681.msg63855#msg63855

I'd say that, generally speaking, there's nothing wrong with necroing a thread with a suggestion you like, anyway.  Unless it was so short it didn't say anything you aren't going to say, then all the debate that took place a year ago is almost certainly still valid, unless it involves something that recieved a major overhaul in the intervening time.

You'll note that those threads, aside from the "tangential mentions" all only had one page... having the same suggestion repeated without getting it debated keeps the suggestion on fairly shallow topics, rather than exploring what can be made of it, and what potential problems there may be with the suggestion.  (Of course, this tends to happen far more with simpler suggestions, just because they have shallow impacts, and there isn't anything to talk about...)

More generally, I'd ask, "what problem does the player have that this is the solution to?"  If you can't answer that directly, then you have to invent the problem to solve.

Personally, I'd rather we compost the organic material than use an incenerator/forge.
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Re: Designations
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 03:56:44 pm »

Last post I found on this was in 08, so my apologies if I missed one sooner.

I've been having a minor problem recently, I keep forgetting which trash dump I currently have active, the one with the magma or the one without the magma. It suddenly occurred to me, why not have separate zones and designations for Garbage dumps and Dumping and Incineration chutes and Incinerating? Cleaning out the heaps of rock and metal in a room is something where I'd rather not have it all go in the magma, but goblins corpses do go in the magma.

Also, generalize Melt as Recycle, clothing is torn back down to leather and cloth, metal is melted, ect. Possibly one more for torching wooden items into charcoal.

Ooooh we could have Elf Christmas then, where the elves bring fuel for the forges!

Basically just reiterating an old idea, but I think it could use some light of day.

Allowing stockpiles above pits would allow us to use all the stockpile functionality for dumping. (Not that that doesn't need some attention, but at least it'll improve in one go.)
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