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[Eric Blank]

I'm pretty sure that megabeast dorfs wouldn't actually be hostile.
Unfortunately. They ARE a part of your civ after all.

Then again I might be wrong. I haven't ever actually tried it out, you see.

Actually I'm getting around this by just making a new creature definition, or more specifically a copy of dwarves, then humans and the rest, with everything they'll need to function as megabeasts and prove difficult opponents. Preparing the armor body parts is taking a damn long time, but I've got a dorf with expert in most military skills that will appear as a semi-megabeast in all 5 varieties of lair listed on the wiki (still wondering if other sites could be used.) All at difficulty 5. Legendary will be difficulty 10, of course.

here's a few more items I came up with:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You think elephants are weak? Carp are harmless? Child, they destroyed Boatmurdered and ended a million punks like you. They're so weak now because I killed any of them I thought a challenge.
You want my immorality? Even Andreus the Undying couldn't out-live me!
I've been more terrified of groundhogs than I am of you! Those things can eat a fully grown minotaur!
If you're still afraid of the night, then you're not worthy of me! Leave now, while I'm still too lazy to get up and deal with you.
Crundles! You're nothing compared to the crundles!

Any other suggestions on that?

So far there are no errors generated by this mod, and they act per my expectations (like a naked dorf with a single melee weapon and expert-level skills for the moment.)
I've just tacked the adventurers onto a larger megabeasts mod I was composing for the moment. If my other creations are deemed unworthy, then of course I could cut them out to a separate file set.
I also added 2 more castes to them, as wizards (male and female), who thus far can only toss solid gold and basic fireballs at you. Of course we all know the chances of you being beaned through the helmet or actually set on fire increase exponentially with the pretentiousness of your adventurer/skill of your fortress militia.
Battlefailed III will be... ‼FUN‼... if this mod were used.

[Mego]

!!Fun!!? Yes. Playable? Possibly not. The cause of numerous overseers going stark raving mad? Absolutely.

Sounds good to me.

[Teneb]

I'll do some experiements with caste modding and add one as a present for whomever is next. It's not like we're replacing the whole creature.

[arcangelsd]

Dwarven science at it's finest.

[rridgway]

Is this caste the trap? Do they shoot dragon breath?

[Teneb]

Here's what I did:
I moved all body tokens to inside the castes and made a new one.

Here is what happened:
fort opens, but when you unpause, it crashes.


Good thing I made a back-up copy

[Eric Blank]

Hmm... Try this setup instead:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

first, remove the two existing castes, including [SELECT_CASTE:ALL], from the file, and the [BODY:x:y:z] tag.

Next, insert this code in the space the body tag previously occupied:

   [CASTE:FEMALE]
      The gender tag lets it know how breeding works.
      [FEMALE]
      [MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
      To add beards, put square brackets around the following:
      BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FACIAL_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS
      [BODY:HUMANOID:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH:FACIAL_FEATURES:TEETH:RIBCAGE]
   [CASTE:MALE]
      [MALE]
      [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FACIAL_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS]
      [BODY:HUMANOID:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH:FACIAL_FEATURES:TEETH:RIBCAGE]

   [SELECT_CASTE:ALL]

This is the absolute easiest way to define many different castes with different body parts (for instance; adding male and female genitalia to the appropriate genders with no overlap. Do it all the time ) that function off the same basic body definitions (skin/bone/muscle/fingernail etc. materials and tissue layers.)

Now, the easiest way to define two castes that function off different body definitions I couldn't tell you, but I know one way: changing that
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
to:
[SELECT_CASTE:FEMALE]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:MALE]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:whatever else that will use the normal body definition...]

and then defining that body definition, afterwards selecting the castes that will use your abnormal body definitions, like the gold skeleton one,

ex:
[SELECT_CASTE:GOLDENDORF_FEMALE]
    [SELECT_ADDITIONAL_CASTE:GOLDENDORF_MALE]

then copy and paste the normal body definition, placing it below the abnormal caste selection and finally editing that one to give them gold bones or jaguar fur or whatever, then finishing it off with a [SELECT_CASTE:ALL] and adding everything else that will be common to all castes.

On dwarves, I think everything contained below the normal [BODY:] tag and above the [MAX_AGE:x:y] tag is all you will need to include in the 'normal' body definition, and just before the max age token is also the point where [SELECT_CASTE:ALL] should be reapplied.
Now, if you knowingly add a caste that modifies anything currently below that [SELECT_CASTE:ALL] token, then you should probably duplicate and remove the original token(s) from below that [SELECT_CASTE:ALL] and add it to every other caste-body definition before adding it to yours, to prevent horrible, game-crashing conflicts and odd bugs. This is where the search (ctrl+f) function in notepad/whatever else comes in handy, really.

If we're going to be doing this a lot, then adding "place dwarven raw definition in it's own separate file" to the list of changes for the Regen of Aluonra should be high-priority, because when using the search function you won't be having to check that you're still in the raws for dwarves.


i should probably go through and make sure all my directions pan out correctly.

[Teneb]

I guess we should leave caste-modding to after we finish failcannon, but before we embark on the third one. All I try causes it to crash.

[Mekboy]

I personally would argue for little to no modding in Battlefailed 3.
One thing I would support would be to maybe mod in a daemonic civilisation, Queen Led's minions.
But no modding our guys, just making the game harder.

[Teneb]

I personally would argue for little to no modding in Battlefailed 3.
One thing I would support would be to maybe mod in a daemonic civilisation, Queen Led's minions.
But no modding our guys, just making the game harder.

Modding in a civ of caste-based mutant dorfs hostile to everyone?



EDIT: I think I found a way to record a video of the fort. I'll keep you updated


EDIT 2: Done, but the quality is... bad.

Spoiler: here's a sample (click to show/hide)

will try some other way


EDIT 3:

Spoiler: sample of better-quality video (click to show/hide)

I'll place it in youtube later on

[Eric Blank]

I like the idea of videos, but I hope you're doing a voice-over or something. I expect it to be very, very long.

So, If there's going to be Led's minions, they should be another civilization of dwarves. The question then is would we prefer to keep them one species, so that every change in the raws affects both civ's citizens equally, making any advantage for us simultaneously an advantage for them when they come to town, or use two different races, so that Led's slaves can be especially odd.

Clearly, though, Battlefailed 3 must have bone blocks and other such quirky things that were created over the course of the last year or so in this save.


On a different note; I've done the first of those adventurer megabeasts, the (dwarven) adventurers (expert-level) and corrupt heroes (legendary) They do still have that wizard caste I added so the legendary ones will likely be utterly terrifying when they fling molten gold and bean you in the head.
Still don't have the body-armor yet, though. It'll take some time to get that working.

The upload is here and on my mods page which you can find in my signature. (the EVIL race and civs mod)

[EmeraldWind]

It's too bad that deities aren't in the raws yet. I remember reading somewhere (one of the QA session of FotF) that eventually deities will be able to be put in raws, kind of like how you can add custom Night Creatures in addition to the random ones.

It would be cool, if we could bring the deities from this world to the next. Hey though, here's a thought. Can't you add some of the characters and gods to the symbols for the next world. This way they would appear as engravings.
 

[Teneb]

It's too bad that deities aren't in the raws yet. I remember reading somewhere (one of the QA session of FotF) that eventually deities will be able to be put in raws, kind of like how you can add custom Night Creatures in addition to the random ones.

It would be cool, if we could bring the deities from this world to the next. Hey though, here's a thought. Can't you add some of the characters and gods to the symbols for the next world. This way they would appear as engravings.

Lur, Led and Ura as megabeasts?


FAKEEDIT: Yes, I'm voicing it and it's not that long. It's a quick tour of failcannon for a reason.

[Urist Imiknorris]

The reason being that a full tour would drive any viewers to madness or alcohol.

[arcangelsd]

The reason being that a full tour would drive any viewers to madness or alcohol.

Or even worse: SOBERNESS (Random caps are not included)