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[smjjames]

Another option is to undermine the moral authority of the religion Francia follows, usually Catholic, and let them tear themselves apart with religious schisms. This can be problematic if you are yourself Catholic, unless you manage to snag Fraticelli, which is basically better than normal Catholic provided you can overthrow the old religion.

Assuming you're still House de Castille this isn't really an option, because you aren't particularly powerful enough or flexible enough in war declarations to snipe out holy sites.

I managed to become King of Navarra by accident when I had made a claim on the counties of Navarra and Alto Aragon and Alto Aragon had been taken over by Fraticelli (which later got nuked by the Pope sending an army of inquisitors). Then while I was letting my army build back up, my liege decided to declare war on Navarra for my claim on Navarra (I thought it was the county claim, not the kingdom claim), the war was quick, then right after we won, I spontaneously usurped the title of the Kingdom of Navarra.

I'm currently trying to either wait and let Asturias split into Asturias and Aragon or use the reconquista to Holy War for Toledo and get more territory and get stronger, also ally the kingdom of Portugal somehow.

Funny that you spoke of Fraticelli though since that had shown up (theres been an explosion of Cathar in the region though) and then got nuked by the Pope, so, that opportunity is gone.

[ChairmanPoo]

Also: something that you might not have noticed: in random worlds you create a custom history, and THEREFORE you can set whichever start date suits you and it WILL work. So even without mods you can potentially play a 1000+ years game

How do I do that though? In both shattered and random, there is no way to choose the start date while in the interface for shattered or random. The only way I can change the start date is by choosing one of the periods and I can't choose anything further back than 769.

I replied afterwards: turns out it´s mod driven. Go for the "ultimate ending" mod.

[Broseph Stalin]

My character threw death down a trap door at a party and his daughter beat death at chess I feel like he might have an axe to grind with her kid.

[smjjames]

Also: something that you might not have noticed: in random worlds you create a custom history, and THEREFORE you can set whichever start date suits you and it WILL work. So even without mods you can potentially play a 1000+ years game

How do I do that though? In both shattered and random, there is no way to choose the start date while in the interface for shattered or random. The only way I can change the start date is by choosing one of the periods and I can't choose anything further back than 769.

I replied afterwards: turns out it´s mod driven. Go for the "ultimate ending" mod.

And you already told me that: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64218.msg7889101#msg7889101

My character threw death down a trap door at a party and his daughter beat death at chess I feel like he might have an axe to grind with her kid.

I've never had the event where the character throws Death down a trapdoor at a party.

I had Death show up when on one run when my character was in the dungeon due to being accused of heresy (and actually was a secret Sunni) and I was unable to get out and I was like 'Just kill me, NOW!', needless to say, I chose the 'attempt to stop him/her' despite the 20% chance of success

[Broseph Stalin]

I've never had the event where the character throws Death down a trapdoor at a party.

I had Death show up when on one run when my character was in the dungeon due to being accused of heresy (and actually was a secret Sunni) and I was unable to get out and I was like 'Just kill me, NOW!', needless to say, I chose the 'attempt to stop him/her' despite the 20% chance of success

Reaper's Due, it's a Masque of Red Death inspired event but my character was super sneaky and kind of a dick.

[smjjames]

I've never had the event where the character throws Death down a trapdoor at a party.

I had Death show up when on one run when my character was in the dungeon due to being accused of heresy (and actually was a secret Sunni) and I was unable to get out and I was like 'Just kill me, NOW!', needless to say, I chose the 'attempt to stop him/her' despite the 20% chance of success

Reaper's Due, it's a Masque of Red Death inspired event but my character was super sneaky and kind of a dick.

I've had the Death event you're talking about, where you can try to beat Death at chess, just never succeeded at throwing Death down a trapdoor or something. Also, I was in the dungeon, if there was a trapdoor, why didn't I escape using it? heh.

[Teneb]

I've never had the event where the character throws Death down a trapdoor at a party.

I had Death show up when on one run when my character was in the dungeon due to being accused of heresy (and actually was a secret Sunni) and I was unable to get out and I was like 'Just kill me, NOW!', needless to say, I chose the 'attempt to stop him/her' despite the 20% chance of success

Reaper's Due, it's a Masque of Red Death inspired event but my character was super sneaky and kind of a dick.

I've had the Death event you're talking about, where you can try to beat Death at chess, just never succeeded at throwing Death down a trapdoor or something. Also, I was in the dungeon, if there was a trapdoor, why didn't I escape using it? heh.

You misunderstand. There is ANOTHER event, where death shows up during a masque ball.

[Loud Whispers]

You misunderstand. There is ANOTHER event, where death shows up during a masque ball.

There is a hilarious outcome where if you're immortal, death can thrust their hand into your chest to claim your soul. There's a 2/3rd chance that death's attack will fail, leaving both of you embarrassed and incredibly flustered (+15% fertility)

[dennislp3]

So for the first time (I think in large part due to the warrior lodges) I was able to reform the zunist faith.

I chose dogmatic + dawnbreakers (divine blood + polygamy) + stability + temporal leadership.

Does my reforming character become a god (dogmatic + divine blood+ temporal) after he dies? Or does some event pop off for it. Also...been 6 years...still no holy warriors...

[ZeroGravitas]

Does my reforming character become a god (dogmatic + divine blood+ temporal) after he dies? Or does some event pop off for it.

what are you talking about?

Also...been 6 years...still no holy warriors...

do you have the charlemagne dlc?

[smjjames]

Does my reforming character become a god (dogmatic + divine blood+ temporal) after he dies? Or does some event pop off for it.

what are you talking about?

Also...been 6 years...still no holy warriors...

do you have the charlemagne dlc?

Talking about Jesus I guess? I don’t think pagan (well, everything other than the Abrahamic group) religions have a saint/demigod mechanism, whether or not the religion in the real world have their ingame equivalents of saints.

[USEC_OFFICER]

The pagan equivalent of Saints are the Ancestors but you need to take a certain pagan reform to make them. Additionally having a temporial ruler means you can never get your character as an Ancestor, since the event doesn't fire due to a delay. Something about targeting the dead character but I'm don't completely remember the exact problem, just that it could be solved by eliminating the event delay.

[ZeroGravitas]

Venerated Ancestors is the pagan reform equivalent of saints. Not something he said he had.

[smjjames]

Isn’t Zunist pagan? Because Christianity considers everything not itself as pagan.

[hector13]

As far as I’m aware, everything that’s not Dharmic (Buddhism, Jainism and... the other one. Hinduism!) Islam or Christian is regarded as Pagan in-game.