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[WealthyRadish]

I think that goes to show that having fun with the process is the most important part of modding. The eventual result is what provides a goal to work towards and the problems to solve, but hardly any modders can go on if they aren't enjoying it.

For me, what killed my desire to release mods for active Paradox Interactive games was their DLC model that requires constant tedious maintenance and rewrites to keep mods updated, and worse, interrupts their development. I've avoided a release of the EU4 mod I've been working on for about 2 years for that reason, and it isn't a surprise to me that the scene in general is so lackluster (maybe the players don't perceive this, but the scene is far weaker than it should be; virtually all mods cease updating within a few patches or never see release beyond maybe a dozen significant gameplay mods for each game that persist for longer).

Cooperating for a group project sounds like its own minor nightmare. I certainly couldn't do it, with my erratic modding work cycle.

[Teneb]

Yeah, pretty much. I am probably going do to this one solo in order to diversify my skills. I was already forced to learn how to map and the basics of drawing because the previous project's map modder bailed. So for this one I'm probably going to try and get better at drawing to the point where I can finally draw faces, which is something I consider one of my main failings.

Of course, it being CK2 helps since it's at the end of its lifecycle so no game-changing patches like, say, Stellaris.


Well... D&D Eberron total conversion, here I go.

[ChairmanPoo]

Ck2 is well established.... hopefully if there is no more dlc we'll get good mods

[Cruxador]

Ck2 is well established.... hopefully if there is no more dlc we'll get good mods

Either that or the interest will die.  But yeah, After the End is going good again for one thing.

[Rolan7]

Ooh, it's still updating?  I love that mod!  It's strangely appealing to play one's local area, even if it's part of the Holy Columbian Confederacy, heh.

Wasn't hard to take control from Best Carolina~

But there was at least technically content for a lot of South America and the Caribbean!  And the weird Californian system which I think was like the Papacy.

And rust cultists, hehe...

[Loud Whispers]

California was cool, it was like a tiny little bit of Three Kingdoms China. Playing as the irrelevant Emperor and steadily climbing in actual power was always a fun time

[Cruxador]

Ooh, it's still updating?

The fan fork is, the original fork is long dead. The fan fork actually did have a bit of a slump during the summer because the main guy was busy and apparently nobody else has the ability to properly coordinate things, so the China equivalent (Brazil) isn't released, but it's compatible with the latest version of the game and has societies and a variety of other smaller improvements. But most of the big stuff being added now is for Latin America, the English-speaking areas are and were already in a pretty good place. So if you're in a "wait for updates" mood, you don't need to be as long as you're playing there. At least unless you're waiting for Holy Fury stuff, but that'll be ages since although most of the features seem relatively quick for modders to add, the DLC itself doesn't even have a release date yet.

[scriver]

Swaying and Antagonising actions between characters. Interesting!

Also Polish/West-Slavic portraits confirmed, in case it wasn't before.

[ChairmanPoo]

There is a landless court mod that allows you to flee your states and seek asylum elsewhere. Only problem is thst there is no clear way to recover your lands so you're kind of stuck into permanent courtier mode. Still, I had a blast for a while with my itinerant High Priest of Lucifer who went around Europe causing mayhem until the Inquisition caught up with him

[scriver]

There is a landless court mod that allows you to flee your states and seek asylum elsewhere. Only problem is thst there is no clear way to recover your lands so you're kind of stuck into permanent courtier mode. Still, I had a blast for a while with my itinerant High Priest of Lucifer who went around Europe causing mayhem until the Inquisition caught up with him

Could you perhaps use favours to make people (I think they have to be your liege) make war for your claims?

[heydude6]

Well, the mod I was working on for this game sort of died out due to real life reasons, a lot of "idea people" coming forth saying they can contribute and another team for the same idea popping up, refusing to work together

Dear God, your experience with modding echos my own. When you first see a group of strangers on the internet band together to work on a complex project for free, you think "Wow, this is amazing", but then reality ensues, the project falls apart, and you feel crushed. It really teaches you the importance of those dreaded leadership skills my high school kept going on about.

[Cruxador]

Well, if you're sad to see something die, you can always take charge and make it live. Especially if you're already on the team so you don't have to worry as much about people who get salty when their contributions are overshadowed.

[heydude6]

So this is completely unrelated to the previous conversation, but if you had to choose, which of these two dlcs should I buy: Sons of Abraham or Horse lords? I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but I'm torn between the two and I can't buy both due to budgetary reasons. I don't care about the fact that Sons of Abraham is cheaper.

[Loud Whispers]

So this is completely unrelated to the previous conversation, but if you had to choose, which of these two dlcs should I buy: Sons of Abraham or Horse lords? I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but I'm torn between the two and I can't buy both due to budgetary reasons. I don't care about the fact that Sons of Abraham is cheaper.

Sons of Abraham probably. If you have Sword of Islam and the Old Gods already Horse Lords is dank beans as you can settle down your nomadic Empire with all the religions

[MrRoboto75]

So this is completely unrelated to the previous conversation, but if you had to choose, which of these two dlcs should I buy: Sons of Abraham or Horse lords? I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but I'm torn between the two and I can't buy both due to budgetary reasons. I don't care about the fact that Sons of Abraham is cheaper.

Sons of Abraham reworks Christianity so it kinda makes sense, there's a handful of cardinals that the pope can come from.  You can also play as the jews, all three of them!

Horse lords reworks the nomads, makes them broken if you really abuse the mechanics.