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[Loud Whispers]

What's more, if you send off enough kids to take the vows you can create a small population of your dynasty that ends up in theocratic or monastic work, increasing your chance of having a Pope or Grandmaster of your dynasty

[ChairmanPoo]

The best way to get a friendly pope is to give a bishopry to Glitterhoof the Immortal. It might take 20 years or it might take 200, but eventually he will get enough street creed to become a cardinal and eventually pope

[hector13]

I’ve found the best way to get a friendly pope is to press an anti-pope’s claim.

I guess the major hurdle to that is you need to be an emperor, unless you’ve somehow made Catholicism a Fraticelli heresy.

[pisskop]

I found the best way to get a friendly pope is to ignore him and instead make my bishops like me.

Also it used to be possible to bribe him 20gold on the first day he donned his hat.  the disposition increase could cover the request for monies/divorce if you were a halfway decent person or he was greedy.

[Teneb]

bribe

They're called indulgences.

[Loud Whispers]

Charitable donations

[hector13]

Imbeciles are scary things man. Do what you can.

[Cruxador]

Guy still liked me.

It's actually pretty normal for abused children to still love their parents.

[hector13]

Guy still liked me.

It's actually pretty normal for abused children to still love their parents.

I genuinely thought I was reading the sad thread for a few moments there.

[pisskop]

Glitterhoof has zeros but she still manages to be liked enough to seduce.  Is your own son not good enough for you?

[Loud Whispers]

One of my best rulers was a Taoist Han imbecile ruling within the Caliphate who lived to the age of 91, going from being a count to the King of the Esfa Han dynasty. I honestly believe the game biases geniuses to early graves and imbeciles to long lives; the ability for imbeciles to surprise everyone by living so long allows them to accrue personal power, while their incompetence can be balanced with talented & loyal councillors/wives

[bloop_bleep]

Guy still liked me.

It's actually pretty normal for abused children to still love their parents.

I genuinely thought I was reading the sad thread for a few moments there.

I genuinely thought greatorder was a child abuser for a few moments there.

Also, how the hell did I end up in this thread? I don't even play Crusader Kings.

[hector13]

Glitterhoof has zeros but she still manages to be liked enough to seduce.  Is your own son not good enough for you?

My son isn't a horse.

That you know of! Maybe that’s why he’s an imbecile.

[birdy51]

I thought my son wasn't a bear until bears started taking over Italy! Horse son can happen to you too!

[pisskop]

The game seems to favor adversity and risk.  It seems to give bad things to 'good/strong' characters and good ones to those bad ones.

Some of my best characters were drunk stressed out cowards who hadn't the statlines to justify their inexplicable success.  Poor characters kind of succeed by degrees instead of in leaps.

I also want to say the game rewards picking traits/event options that fit the archetype and current traits of a character, even if negative, but that might be superstition.



P:

Oh Gods, Theyre giving Pope Popeus his own de-jure Kingdom to lust after.  Suppose it was inevitable.