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[hector13]

Oh. Aye. The Duchy of Sicily is the football, though the rest of the Kingdom is the rest of the 'leg'. It's a nuisance since I need that leg and the upper half all under my control to form Voltron the Empire of Italy. It's so damn silly; I don't think any other Empire is harder to form.

Persia, but I’ve only really done it as weirdo religions and gone up against the Abbasid/Muslim blob and the Byzantines, fending off Indians all the while.

[birdy51]

Fair. If you're trying to go pure Zoastrian, it's a nightmare. Probably not as bad as an actual Muslim, but in the same light, trying to rule all of Italy as a Republic isn't the best strategy either. Patrician politics, dealing with the Karling Dynasty, and facing down the Byzantine blob doesn't make for a good time, and lord help those who attract Hungary's pagan gaze. If they didn't switch to Christianity at the drop of a hat, I imagine that their hordes would just demolish anyone in their way.

[scriver]

There were traditionally two sicilies, and the mainland was one of them.

Edit: Eh, sorry, didn't read the context fully. Didn't realise the joke.

[PTTG??]

I'm curious about a Republic world, where somebody manages to make merchant republics the major government -- or maybe find a way to establish lots and lots of them around Europe and then build an empire on top of that.

[Trif]

I once tried to take the kingdom of Italy as the republic of Amalfi. In the end, I invaded Lotharingia instead. Much easier.

[birdy51]

I'm curious about a Republic world, where somebody manages to make merchant republics the major government -- or maybe find a way to establish lots and lots of them around Europe and then build an empire on top of that.

That would be a bit difficult. As soon as you let a Republic be founded, you'd have to immediately grant it vassalage as you're only allowed a certain number of vassalized Republics I think. But one might be able to make it work.

[Dorsidwarf]

I'm curious about a Republic world, where somebody manages to make merchant republics the major government -- or maybe find a way to establish lots and lots of them around Europe and then build an empire on top of that.

That would be a bit difficult. As soon as you let a Republic be founded, you'd have to immediately grant it vassalage as you're only allowed a certain number of vassalized Republics I think. But one might be able to make it work.

What if you use a network of king-level vassals and grant them the republics rather than holding the republics yourself?

[SaberToothTiger]

Only 10% of the land in your realm can be owned by republics.

[pisskop]

unless you disable that option.

Additionally, if they expand into the land themselves it doesn't count.  Though they rarely make their own republics, preferring to have feudal underlings.

[SaberToothTiger]

If you disable that option there is no limit to vassal republics I believe, therefore it would be possible to turn most government into MRs.

[birdy51]

Nice. I imagine that not every country would be suited for it, but I would be interested in setting up a Republics campaign in Ireland or Scandinavia.

Anything that gets me away from the Byzantines. ;.;

[PTTG??]

Ah, a Scandinavian republic, eh?

Honest Olav's Slightly Used British Wares, Weapons, Women, and Skulls
"We have the best viking deals!"

[pisskop]

"By plow, crook, and steel: if we can't get you the best price we'll give you a free horned helm!

[Rince Wind]

"Special Summer deals for stay at home raiders."

[Persus13]

A lot of historians actually think that the Viking's trade network was a much bigger part of their economy than raids, its just the raids get all the press because people like talking about fighting more.

And you can set up a Republics campaign in those Scandinavia or Ireland if you reform tribal into a republic. Or you can play as Gotland in the 1066 start.