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[Descan]

Romuva = Defensive Pagan = Spend Piety for holy warriors when in a defensive war against other religions.

Check his piety if it went down.

[Teneb]

DD#54 Religious Tweaks

Spoiler: WHAT.... is the capital of Assyria?! (click to show/hide)

Greetings!

Today I want to bring up some minor, but still very flavorful, changes and fixes we’ve done to a few religions. Most of what I’m about to present is the courtesy of our talented and passionate betas, who suggest a lot of good improvements!

Manichean
The Manichean religion, which in-game is part of the Zoroastrian Group and mainly present on the Steppes, has been changed to be more historical and just generally more fleshed-out. For example, rulers of the Manichean faith can no longer take concubines, can now have female temple holders and get access to Reincarnation events. The religion also receives a bunch of new goodies:

-A ‘Bema’ religious festival decision
-A formable Holy Order (The Army of Light)
-A religious head with an accompanying title (The Manichean Church)



Khurmazta
The Khurmazta religion is a new heresy in the Zoroastrian group, and is mainly present in Khiva and the new Pamir areas among the Sogdian people who live there. Rulers that adhere to the Khurmazta faith can choose to embrace a Patron Deity, who all give various bonuses much like the Hindu patron deities do.


Nestorian
The Nestorian religion, which is present in parts of Arabia, India and Africa, has also been fleshed out with new details. There is now a decision to form their Holy Order (The Order of Saint Addai) and, while not strictly relating to Nestorianism, we’ve added a new culture that is primarily Nestorian - the Assyrian culture. The Assyrian culture is present in the area around Baghdad/Syria.


General
One of the main things that caused India to be very stagnant and overly resistant to invasions was the fact that they started out with very powerful Holy Orders right out the gate. We’ve reconstructed these so that you can form them under certain circumstances, and they will automatically form when India is under threat, i.e. by letting some of the major cities fall to invaders.


Also, a lot of religions have had their Holy Sites moved around. The Indian religions, Nestorianism and Manichean in particular. They’ve primarily moved into the Purang county in Tibet, to the holy mount Kailash.

It's about damn time

[Innsmothe]

Is that the Bon religious icon on the right? Isn't that dead at this moment in time?

[pisskop]

- Be 16 year old King.
- Old man died of pox at 76
- Get 'wanna live forever' Event
- Go through motions
- Get maimed and mangled
- Die 4 days later.

Why the hell is that rolling for a 16 year old, and is there any benefit to doing the quest chain if you dont want your bro to die?

I mean, maybe a 57 year old with an adult heir would take risks, but not a 16 year old.

[Cyroth]

Never checked the event in an editor, but I've found that you need rather high stats in whatever type of that event you get (for example martial for that woman who makes you wrestle antilopes and snakes). I've had success with 15 and with 20 it is almost safe in my experience. Anything under 15 will just make you fail and die pretty much always.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Man, there needs to be waaaay more secret societies--and they need to be smaller.

Other than the EXCELLENT Great Trade league mod, anybody know of some good secret societies?

[Teneb]

Man, there needs to be waaaay more secret societies--and they need to be smaller.

Other than the EXCELLENT Great Trade league mod, anybody know of some good secret societies?

Not standalone ones, no.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Any mod that expands secret societies?

[Teneb]

Any mod that expands secret societies?

Not standalone ones, no.

I imagine (haven't checked, kinda busy with modding myself) that big stuff like CK2+ or HIP must have done something.

[Tawa]

Is that the Bon religious icon on the right? Isn't that dead at this moment in time?

Based on Wikipedia's symbol for the group of articles about the religion, yes.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What do you mean "dead at this moment in time", though?

[Urist McScoopbeard]

CK2+ doesnt seem to add any new ones--playing with it now. At least not ones known to you at the start of the game!

[Teneb]

Is that the Bon religious icon on the right? Isn't that dead at this moment in time?

Based on Wikipedia's symbol for the group of articles about the religion, yes.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What do you mean "dead at this moment in time", though?

Yeah, a quick wikipedia check (not that reliable, but still) place its foundation as somewhen in the 11th century. So It won't show up during Charlemagne or Old Gods, but'll be around elsewise.

[Teneb]

Went and download CK2+ to look at the files.

It adds (I didn't check the localisations, so I'll just copy the names straight from the files): monastic_order_apostolic (apostolic religion only, can toggle celibacy, invite ascetic), the_cult_of_balor (stanists for celtic pagans), cult_of_angra_mainyu (stanists for zoroastrians and yazidi)
praise stan

[Urist McScoopbeard]

interessant! ALSO, lit idea just hit me--someone needs to make an inquisition secret society that allows you to identify and kidnap/torture/murder satanists and other heretics for piety--and with the right traits, prestige.

[Teneb]

interessant! ALSO, lit idea just hit me--someone needs to make an inquisition secret society that allows you to identify and kidnap/torture/murder satanists and other heretics for piety--and with the right traits, prestige.

Comments in the vanilla files indicate that was how the Dominicans were supposed to be, but it got cut.