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[Culise]

It does indeed include heresies.  The example given was actually the Samaritan heresy, and it was confirmed in a separate post after just on the off chance that the example had been from a game where Samaritans had supplanted mainstream Judaism. 

Also, apparently medieval Buffy is making an appearance to make Satanism a bit more risky. 

[Rolan7]

Also, apparently medieval Buffy is making an appearance to make Satanism a bit more risky.

Hehe, excellent.
At least half the fun of being cartoonishly evil is having heroes to spar with.

(Not that I've started playing again yet or have the DLC, but soon maybe)

[Iceblaster]

If there isn't an event chain referencing the show, I will boycott the game

[misko27]

Been trying a few things out in between "serious" campaigns. Tried out playing an ultra-loyal Byzantine vassal in 1066 Apulia/Longbardia in CK+. Let me tell ya, it's a hard life for the loyalist. Endless civil wars. I retain leadership of the Glory Faction in order to keep at least one of the factions in line, but I can't control the other ones. We're doing alright in terms of expansion: Georgia has been brought into the realm, as has Jerusalem, while I've expanded into South Italy. But the Imperial Decadence is killing us, and we repeatedly have to raise crown authority because the civil wars bring it down to nothing. I'm managing to expand fine: Norman power is declining; Spoleto is broken, and I had a great time when my friend the Basilissa immediately pushed my claim as soon as I had fabricated it; I'm in position to take the rest of Sicily (the duchy) soon. So the short term is ok, but the medium-term is concerning.

I'm particularly worried about viceroyalities, because I'm not 100% on how the AI uses them in CK2+ (which is the Imperial government type). I assume the AI will create the duchy titles as soon as they can, but what will that mean for me? Can I eventually create the Kingdom (or Exarchate I guess) of Sicily, or is that forbidden because it's subsumed by the Italia province? Thus far I've been careful to expand such that I don't get enough provinces to form a duchy, but that slows me down because it means I can't use dejure wars, and I'll need a higher tier-title eventually. It wouldn't be terrible for me to lose some of my titles, so for example I could Holy War for parts of Africa, create a strong little fiefdom, then peacefully relinquish it (as long as I have land nearby enough to Holy War); but I don't know if I can easily do so, whether it'll piss off my liege, or whether they'll decide to take away my holdings in Italy or some similar foolishness. I want to build a power base with which to support my liege (whomever they happen to be) in their wars and independently expand enough to form Rome. To do that, I want to have a free hand in South Italy for as long as possible and have some sort of stable realm with which to complement my liege.

[Descan]

As far as I'm aware, the AI doesn't tend to take away titles if they like you (and are the same culture/religion)

Might be different for CK2+ though.

[umiman]

If you are a viceroyalty, you can create titles up to one below your liege's rank (and retain them). Your AI leader won't mind. I don't think you can grant them independence though. So you can create Kingdoms if you are under an Emperor and Duchies if you are under a Kingdom. I might be mistaken about this and it could be you can only create titles up to your own rank... but I think it's the other one.

The other AI will do this as well, if they can afford it and meet the requirements.

What your AI king can do is revoke your duchy titles without penalty from the other leaders though. He can't do this for kingdoms. Generally the AI won't do this if the duchy titles are de jure within the viceroyal kingdom or actual kingdom. But I have seen some of my vassals just happily collect duchy titles for no reason.

Whether the AI ruler will actually revoke your other holdings... depends on them I guess. If you're super powerful they probably won't do it as you'll smash them in the civil war. The only times I've ever had an AI liege try to revoke my lands is when he thinks he can get away with it. I've also had a lot of times where the AI ruler will give me land when I ask (in exchange for favours).

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This is all regarding vanilla CK2 though. No idea about CK2+. Should be the same I would think.

I say just try it and see what happens.

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In any case, I also love just being a loyal vassal. Or trying to be anyway, until something forces me to act. With Conclave, I've had far more entertaining and memorable games playing the Game of Thrones with other vassals than being a leader painting the map.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

If I were to host the game I have that's roughly 88 years in for multiplayer starting recruitment in, say, half an hour, would anyone be interested?  I know it is late so not much could be done, but I'm just wanting to mess around in the game a bit with other people.

Spoiler: Here's some interesting stuff on the map that we could mess with. (click to show/hide)

There's a Lombardy Exclave that is Enclaved within the Byzantine Empire, I had temporarily switched over to an AI over in France to give it a free Kingdom due to it being an independent duke that had very little border gore, Kingdom of Pomerania owns Iceland, East Norway, and maybe one interior county of its de jure land, there is a Christian Kingdom of Africa leftover from when Lombardy conquered the place, there was a successful Slavic uprising in Kingdom of Serbia, Cyprus is under the Kingdom level Orthodox Patriarch, and an independent duke based in Antioch has conquered several provinces of Jerusalem somehow despite the area having been under Abbassid control at the start of the game while being named Addauid.

[scriver]

Not me, I'm probably heading for bed soon, but I thought I should post to say that I might be interested some other time.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Not me, I'm probably heading for bed soon, but I thought I should post to say that I might be interested some other time.

Could wake up early to start one in eleven to twelve hours.  May only be three to four hours, but it is a possibility.  Would that time work out?

[Tawa]

New AGoT mod release!

I haven't tried it yet, but from what I've heard, most of it is real! The "A Game of Thrones" bookmark seems to be a joke, though...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Apparently, in the bookmark, George of House Martin, the commander of the Dragon's Gate, starts offing people left and right by writing them out of the series.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Wound up setting up the multiplayer game.  Might as well make sure there are no hosting errors.  Here's the details:

Server Name: Bay12
Server ID: 90107864263132163
Password: armok

[Rift]

..it took a lot of attempts.

[umiman]

..it took a lot of attempts.

Congrats, that's one of the hardest achievements.

[Rift]

yea i failed atleast 15 times over the last 6 months, trying every once and awhile.. but a bit of luck keeping the muslim empire to the west busy for a few years early on.. and then slowly slowly grinding them down everytime they holy war'd me (causing them to revolt for awhile) by their doomstacks dieing to my attrition, fighting some 40+ year wars... acquiring punjab (indian kingdom to the east), while slowly eating up the northren muslim territories eventually the balanced finally tipped... and bam:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Descan]

I just started as a Pecheneg nomad and changed to Zunist, invaded the Abbasids, and settled.

Kinda cheesy but it was still fun.