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[Cruxador]

Bureaucracy.... Interesting!  Iqta is a mix of religion and feudalism, which I suppose fits pretty well with Warlord Era China!
I had no point, except that I'm glad that Iqta can (mechanically, and possible only if you choose ahistorical options) be shifted into egalitarianism.

But last I checked, sadly, trade republicans can't.  Which sucks because trade republics are my favorite way to play, heh.
Not JUST because they're OP as hell (I'd just play pagan) but because they can sorta sit back a bit.  While still establishing trade and reaping mad monies.   Basically?  They don't have quite as much need to go full VULT, while still remaining powerful, and that's nice.

Iqta is just a "feudal with caveats" government. That kind of thing is easy to change in modding, so the specific mechanics of Iqta aren't relevant. The Republic is a (kind of poorly designed) DLC that adds a very specific playstyle which happens to also be a government type, from long before government types were inplemented in their current state. It has a lot of sloppy hacky code that can't really be fixed.

Huh. Weird. I never played Ck2 before Charlemagne, so I have no idea how Pre-Republic Ck2 handled them.

Basically, republics back then worked like republics now, even if they were ducal and on a coast. It was merchant republics that didn't exist.

Honestly, what'd be great is if int he final DLC, the free patch they release with it basically makes everything that's hard coded fully moddable

The official statement is that it's not happening, because Republic is such a mess that cleaning it up would take the amount of work of making a whole new DLC.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Anyone up for a game later "today" (ie. the 14th of January, maybe around twelve hours from now) either using After the End or the base game, with all of us being the families of a single merchant republic?

[scriver]

Sure, I'd be up for that. Preferably in the After the End mod (checking to make sure mine is updated to the max right now), but if anyone insists I'd be okay with the base game.

[Twinwolf]

I would consider it but A: I don't have the mod and B: I don't have "The Republic" and would probably just crash and burn in a generation or two.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Sure, I'd be up for that. Preferably in the After the End mod (checking to make sure mine is updated to the max right now), but if anyone insists I'd be okay with the base game.

Any ideas for the Merchant Republic we could use?

I would consider it but A: I don't have the mod and B: I don't have "The Republic" and would probably just crash and burn in a generation or two.

Mod is here, and since the DLC unlocked is based upon the host, you don't have to worry about not knowing it.  Yes, you may not be experienced in running a merchant republic, but I have no real idea either.  I know you have an estate you can build up, you can build Trade Posts in many places, your heir of the family title is always the oldest male in your family, and the heir to the dutchy can be any family in the republic.  That's all I know, so I'll be learning how to play them as well.

[hector13]

You can designate an heir for the family title, too.

I personally don't think it's as fun as other government types 'cause there's some restrictions in laws, and I don't like that. There is the potential to make a ton of money if you play right, though, which basically means you can build everything up (I had my family estate built up to the max within a few decades of starting a Merchant Republic having been tribal, for example) and hire all the mercenaries for your wars, should you so desire...

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I personally don't think it's as fun as other government types 'cause there's some restrictions in laws, and I don't like that. There is the potential to make a ton of money if you play right, though, which basically means you can build everything up (I had my family estate built up to the max within a few decades of starting a Merchant Republic having been tribal, for example) and hire all the mercenaries for your wars, should you so desire...

True, but every single family in a merchant republic competing against each other being players should make things pretty interesting.

[Iceblaster]

Honestly, MRs are my favorite government to watch because it's just neat to see them in action.

kinda wish they were created by the AI more often. it's always fun to have a bunch of rival republics.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

In about two hours til I'm going to open up the game.  Make sure to enable both After the End and its Empires submod.  That submod makes it so the de jure empire level is not completely blank, and I believe allows the recreation of the United States, which could be a goal of ours.

Honestly, MRs are my favorite government to watch because it's just neat to see them in action.

kinda wish they were created by the AI more often. it's always fun to have a bunch of rival republics.

We could attempt to start a Merchant republic vassal state in the multiplayer game.  See what happens in that case.

[Iceblaster]

Perhaps. dunno if I'll join. Just the main module and the empire submod?

[scriver]

kinda wish they were created by the AI more often. it's always fun to have a bunch of rival republics.

Yeah. And that they were killed off by the AI less often. My main reason for stopping during merchant republic playthroughs is that all to calling republics in the area has been swallowed up and and subsumed by dirty feudals.

 

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Perhaps. dunno if I'll join. Just the main module and the empire submod?

Yep, that is all that will be required.  I don't know if the other submodules change the checksum, so we shouldn't enable them just in case.

[Ibid Straydrink]

Unrelated, I find myself taking a break and playing CK over Stellaris just for the simple comfort of being able to disband entire armies WITHOUT SINGLEHANDEDLY \SPLITTING AND LANDING THEM ON A DOZEN DIFFERENT PLANETS.

Ok, I'm good.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Forty-Five minutes until multiplayer game is booted up.  Checksum for the mod seems to be XGYY, just so people know.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Game is set up with the name 'Bay 12 Merchant Republic' and the password of 'bay12'.  Should be open for joining for the next hour or so, roughly.

For those to who haven't played this game in multiplayer before, please use refresh internet in order to have the games display.