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[Iceblaster]

Oh. fuck my joke sucks then

Anyways, I think the Libertarians in this, worshiping the statue of Liberty, basically, have the ability to go to Enatic laws. I wonder if I could do that as a merchant republic

[Rolan7]

Nice!  Sounds like the mod author got the actual gist of Libertarianism.
But sadly not.  Last I checked, merchant republics were absolutely hardcoded to patriarchy - even with mods.

I'd love to be proven wrong!  There have been updates I haven't gone that far into, since Reaper's Due.

Edit:  Of note, I know Iqta somehow gained the opportunity to have women in power.  I don't know the details, but mechanically it's encouraging.

[Iceblaster]

Iqta, in this mod, is called Beaucracy and is the government of the Californian Empire's Kings. Basically, Warlord Era China. But with California

though i'm not sure if that's your point

[Rolan7]

Bureaucracy.... Interesting!  Iqta is a mix of religion and feudalism, which I suppose fits pretty well with Warlord Era China!
I had no point, except that I'm glad that Iqta can (mechanically, and possible only if you choose ahistorical options) be shifted into egalitarianism.

But last I checked, sadly, trade republicans can't.  Which sucks because trade republics are my favorite way to play, heh.
Not JUST because they're OP as hell (I'd just play pagan) but because they can sorta sit back a bit.  While still establishing trade and reaping mad monies.   Basically?  They don't have quite as much need to go full VULT, while still remaining powerful, and that's nice.

[Iceblaster]

Yeah. I do like them. Mainly because you also have four vassals who, if you're not doing NK mode, can expand on their own. i mean, in one of my Re-Reconquista runs at the sultan of granada in ck2, pisa owned like. half of africa just because the families under them started expanding there. That was also when Pisa, yet again, won a crusade for Jerusalem.

[Teneb]

Merchant republics are a pain to mod because everything about them is hardcoded. You can't even set cultural clothing for them. If you change the clothes of one republic, you change the clothes of all republic. And so on.

[Iceblaster]

That is a weird thing to hard code, tbh. Methinks it's an oversight by the devs that didn't think there'd be any DLC to make them player

of course, by the time the dlc did come, it was too deep into the code to have it be worth fixing

[Teneb]

That is a weird thing to hard code, tbh. Methinks it's an oversight by the devs that didn't think there'd be any DLC to make them player

of course, by the time the dlc did come, it was too deep into the code to have it be worth fixing

The clothes were added with the DLC. They didn't exist before it.

[Rolan7]

The harcoded thing was the male-only party.

Sorta especially once they un-gender-locked Iqta, but that's to their credit.  Let's hope they do it for patriarchies someday.

[Iceblaster]

Huh. Weird. I never played Ck2 before Charlemagne, so I have no idea how Pre-Republic Ck2 handled them.

[Iceblaster]

Honestly, what'd be great is if int he final DLC, the free patch they release with it basically makes everything that's hard coded fully moddable

[Rolan7]

Not actually inaccurate in medieval Eufrasia. (as I shall now call the Europe-Africa-Asia area)

Exactly...  Absolute-cognatic is extremely rare in this period.  *extremely*, which is why only the Cathars and uh...  That awesome culture on the france-spain border had the option.

Though it's a game, and I've played many, oh so many hours, semi-period-realistically.
It's either this or installing mods and going full Lilith

Paradox has recently been awesome by allowing options for it in base play!  Seriously!
Especially by mechanically including Iqta, against all history!!

They've done so much, I just wish that trade republics would get a similar update, that's all.  They've already gone above and beyond!

[Iceblaster]

I mean, the female iqta rulers isn't entirely ahistorical... There were times where a female was ruling a muslim country. It could be debated if it was a true rulership or not, but it happened

[Teneb]

Not actually inaccurate in medieval Eufrasia. (as I shall now call the Europe-Africa-Asia area)

Exactly...  Absolute-cognatic is extremely rare in this period.  *extremely*, which is why only the Cathars and uh...  That awesome culture on the france-spain border had the option.

You're thinking of the Basque, and that's only in the game. Historically, Agnatic-cognatic was normal in the christian part of the Iberian peninsula. Meanwhile, the rest of western Europe went with the Salic law (which in game is agnatic gavelkind).

[Iceblaster]

Minus England. But then again, England was kinda weird for the longest time IIRC