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[Grim Portent]

I don't know if you even can create a titular kingdom if you already have a kingdom or empire.

You can. If you cover the world in your own empire long enough you can claim all the de jure empires destroyed in the process as titular titles to boost your prestige.

[scriver]

I think the reason was the because the kingdom I inherited was in a civil war for Elective Succession the civil war countries did not count as my "inherited lands" (which would otherwise be threat-free). But when the civil war ended with me accepting the rebels' demands it thus counted me as "conquering" the rebel lands even though I both lost the war and they actually just rejoined the kingdom they were already a part of (but mechanically separate from).

So yeah, it's a pretty big oversight.

Did you get threat when you inherited the kingdom? Before the end of the civil war, I mean.
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Nope. You can clearly see in the threat window where the threat was from and it was from the war.

I don't know if you even can create a titular kingdom if you already have a kingdom or empire.

You can't create your own brand new original kingdom if you've already got a real one, but you can still create pre-existing titular kingdoms.

[Teneb]

Did you get threat when you inherited the kingdom? Before the end of the civil war, I mean.

Nope. You can clearly see in the threat window where the threat was from and it was from the war.

I meant if you got any threat before this weird end-of-war threat. But I'm guessing the answer is still no.

My guess is that the system generates threat when you gain territory as the consequence of a war, without checking if it was a civil war or if you were in defense.

[Sirbug]

I assure you you can. I've got a reminding hanging right now.
However I already have 3 kingdoms and I worry what would happen if I have more then 3 sons and gravelkind.

[Teneb]

I assure you you can. I've got a reminding hanging right now.
However I already have 3 kingdoms and I worry what would happen if I have more then 3 sons and gravelkind.

Fun times, of course. Do as Charlemagne before you!

[Sirbug]

Fun times or not, last time I ended up with emperor who had no demesne. I think it might be a bug, but I'm not so sure.

[EuchreJack]

Fun times or not, last time I ended up with emperor who had no demesne. I think it might be a bug, but I'm not so sure.

When a character would otherwise have no demesne and is Duke or higher, they automagically confiscate one of their vassal's holdings, in order to have one demesne.  Was like that in the original Crusader Kings as well.  Exception is when playing as a Patrician because you don't need a demesne to continue.  Dunno about nomads (is their army enough?  Dunno).

You can see it most often when you press a claim against a Duke with one county for his home county, and he has one or more Count vassals.  After you win the war, one of his Counts gets booted and he moves into their county.

[Descan]

Ah, see, I was assuming we were talking about the whole "Upgrade a duchy into a kingdom" thing. I'd forgotten about already-extant titular titles.

[Sirbug]

I had one barony. That I just built. And that was all I had, so I lost quickly when my brother demanded the empire.

Now, looks like I'm finally getting somewhere. I pressed claim of elderly princess of Poland who has a son who is my vassal. Let's see what will happen if she dies.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Anyone having a problem with mods on 2.5.2? A bunch of the big ones like CK+ or CK:Expanded or HIP either break unplayable or flatout crash for me.

[Teneb]

Anyone having a problem with mods on 2.5.2? A bunch of the big ones like CK+ or CK:Expanded or HIP either break unplayable or flatout crash for me.

Probably they are not updated yet?

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Mmmm. CK+ says it's compatible. On top of that... New mods I've been dling haven't been showing up. Now I've deleted and reinstalled everything and I'm encountering a slew of problems so I think it's actually something else on my end.

[Kanil]

I wonder if the AI goes after the player on purpose, because the player's provinces tend to be richer than a standard AI's provinces... and richer provinces give more warscore?

[Descan]

... To be honest though. If you were in a war, and there was this big stronk guy in your war with you, and he had a temporary revolt going on... Wouldn't you focus on him, to kick him while he's down and make sure he doesn't become a threat before the war is over?

[EuchreJack]

OK, I KNOW the game is intentionally fucking me over. Vassals decide to revolt. I can deal with it.

Except that EVERY FUCKING ARMY ON EARTH seems to descend on me suddenly. They're fighting MY LIEGE. WHY THE FUCK ARE THE SUDDENLY BREAKING OFF A SIEGE TO TRAVEL HALFWAY ACROSS THE FUCKING ARABIAN EMPIRE TO ATTACK MY ARMIES!?

I'm not even fucking joking. An army sitting in Jerusalem decided 'Oh fuck THAT guy!' and sent their soldiers at me. I'm able to deal with them as they keep coming one by one, but it's still depleting my army and I REALLY do not need that given that the rebels have up to 1000 more men than me at present. I say at present because they keep summoning troops from fuck knows where. They don't have any mercenaries employed, but every so often 200-800 men will just pop up in one of their provinces (it's not the event that spawns them, either. They just appear without any kind of popup happening) and reinforce their army. I'd be fine if I could get them to attack me in a mountain province, but the shits are refusing to.

I've actually had to come off because I was getting so fucking pissed off at the game deciding to try to dick me over.

Sounds like your Vassals are replenishing from their levies.  Hm, are your vassals and those fighting your liege hostile to one another?*  If so, let 'em fight it out while your army sits on a mountain out of the way (with you in command, so you can't be captured if your holding is sieged).  Previously, armies from levies would disappear if the levied province was captured, but now they remain.

What are your Vassals revolting over?  Independence is easy: Let 'em have it, and reclaim them piecemeal with the claims that you get (if it works like I recall it working, things sometimes change).  A lot of the other revolts are significantly more painful (Elective succession and install pretender, primarily, although with the new DLC, "War Committee" is also a pain).

*EDIT: Just remembered, that when subjects revolt, they become subjects of the next higher liege.  Hence your revolting subjects (if you have the Old Gods expansion) are at the same level as you, and thus they should be just as vulnerable to the folks attacking your liege as you are.  By which I mean, the leader of the revolt is the same as you.