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[pisskop]

I just processed what you meant wrt converting for republic.  If the norse faith starts with 40 MA, theyre 10 conquests, temple raids, or 1 won holy war from reformation.  Its pretty easy to loot 10 temples of any other faith if you're on the line of going republic/feudal.

And similarly, on crappy land starts like Iceland, you could temperarily swap your capital to a neighboring providence, found the republic, change your inheritence, start building a city in the second slot of your permanent capital, change back to your capital, then change over to another merchant republic.

Now you have all city at your capital.

heck, couldn't you build three if you built your second city at the same time the 'cheap build you a castle/city/temple' event rolled?  Actions performed when the decision scroll is up is counted as before the event and the event still transpires, even if it usually couldn't because balance.

[Rolan7]

Pretty sure you can't change your capital city as a republic, sadly.
That last bit sounds like a neat trick though, particularly for a republic which may have the money to pull it off.

[pisskop]

Shame.

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why are they in fief to him.  Theyre still pagan.  When did this become a thing?  How do I unthing it?

[Descan]

I'm not sure what the issue is. Just... google Varangian guard?

They were pagan so they're gonna stay pagan, and they're his vassals because they were his guard...?

[Broken]

Having foreigners and infidels as a honor Guard is something that lots of kings adopted. The reasoning being that is safer than a guard of locals, since they can't murder the ruler and take power. (Like the imperial germanic guard or the christian mercenaries that
muslims often employed)

[pisskop]

okay.  would you believe its my first time playing as a norseman?  I heard they were op and decided not to.

[Rolan7]

Oh, they are pretty OP.  It's the raiding, mostly, and the fact they even get to sail up rivers to do it.  They also have a lot of strong starting options.
Varangian guard isn't even particularly bad.  Sometimes one of your sons will want to go serve, and I guess they may die or whatever.  Who cares, you're in gavelkind!  Pretty sure they give up their inheritance when they go.

[EnigmaticHat]

Subjugation makes it very easy to get the snowball rolling.

[Innsmothe]

Oh, they are pretty OP.  It's the raiding, mostly, and the fact they even get to sail up rivers to do it.  They also have a lot of strong starting options.
Varangian guard isn't even particularly bad.  Sometimes one of your sons will want to go serve, and I guess they may die or whatever.  Who cares, you're in gavelkind!  Pretty sure they give up their inheritance when they go.

That's why going republic is so good if you can't reform the faith. Just use Marriages as a cheat.

[RedKing]

Oh, they are pretty OP.  It's the raiding, mostly, and the fact they even get to sail up rivers to do it.  They also have a lot of strong starting options.
Varangian guard isn't even particularly bad.  Sometimes one of your sons will want to go serve, and I guess they may die or whatever.  Who cares, you're in gavelkind!  Pretty sure they give up their inheritance when they go.

That's why going republic is so good if you can't reform the faith. Just use Marriages as a cheat.

But you can't go Republic *unless* you reform the faith. Or convert to a non-pagan religion.

[dennislp3]

Either way going republic is still an OP option for them. They get free casus belli on all coastal regions...meaning as long as you are willing to take it you can put your trade posts anywhere you want

[USEC_OFFICER]

Crusader Kings can be quite weird sometimes. In my current run as Granada/Andalusians I managed to get the demon child event. Unfortunately I had to delegitimize  him since I could not afford the piety loss and thus I wasn't able to make him my heir. Apparently nobody told the demon child about this, since he mysteriously killed off all of his brothers before he grew up. As such my ruler was eventually succeeded by his half-brother, who made the demon child his marshal because he had 20+ Martial ability due to being the spawn of Satan. Cut to twenty+ years later, when I'm fiddling with my council and notice that my Marshal now has 43 Martial. When I wasn't looking two things happened to him. The first is that he converted to Zikri, and thus was a filthy heretic. The other is that he, despite being possessed, somehow gained the modifier 'Military Advice from Jesus', for +20 Martial.

In summary: My current marshal is an Islamic heretic child of Satan who is receiving advice from Jesus. I would complain about the weird mashup of religions if I wasn't too busy enjoying my 43 Martial marshal and crushing the remaining Christian Spanish kingdoms underneath my bootheel.

[pisskop]

Jesus is a (very important) prophet in Islam, and makes up a third of the Mohammud/Jesus/Moses prophet trio.


Although Jesus would be the least likely of the three to dish out tactical advice, its possible, and the reputation hit would be about the same, imo.

[EuchreJack]

The other is that he, despite being possessed, somehow gained the modifier 'Military Advice from Jesus', for +20 Martial.

Jesus obviously wishes to deprive the Devil of this prized soldier as long as possible, by ensuring said soldier lives a long life.

Or...
Jesus is the Son of God, Satan was created by God, your Martial is the Son of Satan, hence Jesus just wanted to help out his nephew.
Jesus is chill like that.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Jesus is a (very important) prophet in Islam, and makes up a third of the Mohammud/Jesus/Moses prophet trio.

Although Jesus would be the least likely of the three to dish out tactical advice, its possible, and the reputation hit would be about the same, imo.

That is very true, though I still think it's a bit silly. Islamic madmen should probably be getting help from Mohammud instead, since the modifier is supposed to be a reference to Joan of Arc.

Or...
Jesus is the Son of God, Satan was created by God, your Martial is the Son of Satan, hence Jesus just wanted to help out his nephew.
Jesus is chill like that.

Thanks, Jesus...? Though I feel that there's a bit of a conflict of interest here, since I am murdering Christians in Spain (with France in my sights next). Jesus probably shouldn't be helping me conquer and convert his followers.