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[EnigmaticHat]

I've always wondered this; Multiplayer, what happens if one player is the other player's heir?

My guess is you lose.  The most obvious alternative is giving the player control of another player's character, which is clearly unacceptable.

[Rolan7]

Worked pretty well in Age of Empires 1 (and 2?) if two players in multiplayer chose the same color, and thus the same empire.  Worked really well, both players had simultaneous control.  So delegation was key...  I'd focus on construction while my brother handled combat.  Sadly isn't possible in 3.

Probably wouldn't translate well to Crusader Kings though.  At least without a lot of special coding.  Ideally, one character would be in the other's court.  Immediately an issue if the courtier character isn't landed.  And CK2, as a non-RTS, streamlines the combat a lot compared to AoE.  Being someone's marshal would probably be fairly tedious, not worth the coding headaches.

[EnigmaticHat]

There's no way they would code that without making it an explicit feature.

[Descan]

It was an option in other Paradox games, but they never explicitly made it a feature.

[Persus13]

It was an option in other Paradox games, but they never explicitly made it a feature.

Yeah, but playing as the same country is a little different from playing as the same person. Maybe with lunatic it would make more sense though.

[Loud Whispers]

get out of my constantinople clay!!!!

[Elfeater]

We have me playing as the now ex doge of Venice, although I do hold all of Sardinia now, the king of italy via Duke of Tuscany, and the Ex-Prussian (Turned Christian too quick and got rofl stomped) now playing as Croatia.

[ArKFallen]

So, this is impossible.

I am the brand new Emperor of the ERE. I am Serbian. I am Orthodox. I am a foreign conquerer. The last Emperor of the ERE was Greek and Miaphysite, and converted most of the people, but few of the provinces. Everyone hates me. Crown authority is 0.

How do I get crown authority to 1 in this situation?

Make all of the assholes rebel until you can bump it with your own votes (CA can be raised in war right?) or make a king that likes you have all of the assholes as vassals.

[Innsmothe]

Two issues.

1) "All the assholes" is everyone. That map I linked to earlier is what I'm dealing with here.

2) It can, but you forget that I can't actually take their titles because I have no title revocation. That, and imprisoning doesn't work if they all keep dying. This would only work if I can get them all at once, which would be difficult to say the least.

3) ERE can't make vassal kingdoms.

In the base game it can?

[Rolan7]

I thought maybe you could still revoke one title from a traitor even with minimum crown authority?  But I'm probably thinking of Patricians, who need a justification even at low authority (their max, I think).

[EnigmaticHat]

Grant troublemakers independence, and then use de jure wars to reclaim them in a later generation.

[Elfeater]

So, if you gain the doge position and hold a duchy, then lose the position, do you lose the duchy with it?

[umiman]

I believe so. IIRC, the only things you keep if you lose the doge-ship is your own castle and your trade posts.

[Elfeater]

So you dont want to be the doge if you are expanding? Cause I hold a duchy and am stronger in this position than as doge, because  I don't want to lose my title upon death.

[umiman]

More or less. It's been awhile since I've played a vanilla republic so I could be wrong.

Some people prefer to be the Doge as you get way more money and power. You can somewhat control the dogeship by pouring craptonnes of money into the election fund but sometimes you can get royally screwed over such as if your characters die too quickly in succession or something else that prevents you from normally protecting the title.