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[umiman]

Immortal

Haha, the immortal tag reminds me of when I did that.

There was this mod on the Paradox forums a long time ago where they implemented immortality in a novel way.

Basically it made every king+ rank character at the start of the game have an event where they would become immortal. This immortality gene would pass down to all their male descendants. They were immune to death from aging, but could still die from sickness and all that.

It was freaking awesome. Too bad I can't find it any more.

[Vendayn]

Immortal

Haha, the immortal tag reminds me of when I did that.

There was this mod on the Paradox forums a long time ago where they implemented immortality in a novel way.

Basically it made every king+ rank character at the start of the game have an event where they would become immortal. This immortality gene would pass down to all their male descendants. They were immune to death from aging, but could still die from sickness and all that.

It was freaking awesome. Too bad I can't find it any more.

Yeah, all his children (except 1 son for some reason, guess he was "unlucky") all have immortal lol. So its an entire kingdom of immortal people...I'll probably have the son who is not immortal...disappear quietly Can't have him ruining the immortal family line.

But yeah, that is pretty much how it works. Dunno if its in vanilla game like that, but in historical project mod it pretty much acts like that. Immune to age, but can die other ways. Though there is a huge fertility loss.

[scriver]

The Lord Johan did, in his infinite wisdom, banish the assassinate button from our ream, he spake "And now multi is balanced".

He then drank a million gallons of dewritos and flew into the sun, where he resides to this day.

I think that, since by charlemagne, the team is composed of four people, it might have been someone else. Either way, I wish we could plot to kill our own children (perhaps disabling that if the character is kind/other positive trait)

The new project leader is also called Johan, though.

And apparently they've since gotten reinforcements, but I don't know what numbers.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The Lord Johan did, in his infinite wisdom, banish the assassinate button from our ream, he spake "And now multi is balanced".

He then drank a million gallons of dewritos and flew into the sun, where he resides to this day.

I think that, since by charlemagne, the team is composed of four people, it might have been someone else. Either way, I wish we could plot to kill our own children (perhaps disabling that if the character is kind/other positive trait)

The new project leader is also called Johan, though.

And apparently they've since gotten reinforcements, but I don't know what numbers.

The Johans are all a singular mind transposed against spacetime anyway.

[jhxmt]

So with seduction focus there's inadvertently the best succession law ever. Never marry, just impregnate everyone, especially people with the right traits, and then legitimize whatever son is capable enough. Get like 40 children and choose one.

This sounds (a) a genius idea and (b) the perfect basis for a long-lasting imperial society! 

[PanH]

So with seduction focus there's inadvertently the best succession law ever. Never marry, just impregnate everyone, especially people with the right traits, and then legitimize whatever son is capable enough. Get like 40 children and choose one.

This sounds (a) a genius idea and (b) the perfect basis for a long-lasting imperial society! 

Problem is you don't get the bonus from having a wife. You'd probably have better stats by having a meh heir and a good wife (that you can choose) than a good heir alone.

[scrdest]

So with seduction focus there's inadvertently the best succession law ever. Never marry, just impregnate everyone, especially people with the right traits, and then legitimize whatever son is capable enough. Get like 40 children and choose one.

This sounds (a) a genius idea and (b) the perfect basis for a long-lasting imperial society! 

Isn't that sorta how Imperial Rome worked? Sure, if there was a legit son, he was the heir, but otherwise, it was like 'hey, randomdude that's capable, you my totes legit son now, go rule when I die'.

[Rolan7]

So with seduction focus there's inadvertently the best succession law ever. Never marry, just impregnate everyone, especially people with the right traits, and then legitimize whatever son is capable enough. Get like 40 children and choose one.

This sounds (a) a genius idea and (b) the perfect basis for a long-lasting imperial society! 

Problem is you don't get the bonus from having a wife. You'd probably have better stats by having a meh heir and a good wife (that you can choose) than a good heir alone.

Is it possible to marry a non-nubile woman?  If not, maybe one could find one who's just about to age out of childbirth, and pray to (not) get lucky.

[dennislp3]

I am attempting to establish a female run Cathar empire using a woman on the throne and never marrying...

lots of piety and prestige penalties...but a great challenge

[PanH]

Is it possible to marry a non-nubile woman?  If not, maybe one could find one who's just about to age out of childbirth, and pray to (not) get lucky.

Yeah, that's what I do often, marry 40+ women (can't do much more than 40 though) to get the stat bonus or the prestige bonus (muslims). Doesn't always work though. Plus, you have to find a woman who is old and has good stats (at that age, they're either widow, or leftover (bad courtiers or meh lesser nobility).

[RedKing]

So with seduction focus there's inadvertently the best succession law ever. Never marry, just impregnate everyone, especially people with the right traits, and then legitimize whatever son is capable enough. Get like 40 children and choose one.

This sounds (a) a genius idea and (b) the perfect basis for a long-lasting imperial society! 

Isn't that sorta how Imperial Rome worked? Sure, if there was a legit son, he was the heir, but otherwise, it was like 'hey, randomdude that's capable, you my totes legit son now, go rule when I die'.

Not sure if it's still in there, but there was a "Adopt a worthy heir" item in the Intrigue panel that would be available if you had no heir and your monarch was over 40 or so, where you could adopt a randomly generated child and legitimize them as an heir. Or maybe that was just an add-on in the Elder Kings mod, I can't remember.

I frequently run into the "wife dies when my king is 55" trap, especially if I'm playing with Ultimogeniture. I try to marry the best available wife that's 40+ so I don't crank out an infant heir right before I croak. Even with Primogeniture it can be a trap, because if you start cranking out additional children, they're potential claimants who could one day come back and wreak havoc on your primary heir.



So, on a different tangent -- I present to you the story of Tuk Khazbek, my current game's version of Rasputin.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Tuk and his brother Eskhakh were Tengri Avar refugees who fled to my court when Avaria was finally overrun and rechristened Pannonia (in my game, the Magyars got curbstomped early, so Hungary never appeared. The Avars held Avaria until well into the 11th century until finally being ousted by Orthodox Bohemians).

I welcomed them into my court with little notice, until he knocked up one of my cousins. After a while, I started noticing that minor courtiers were being murdered on Tuk's orders. Then my Spymaster exposed one of his plots, and he had them murdered. Then he murdered my sister. Then my wife.  Then another spymaster. And yet, I had no option for righteous imprisonment and didn't want to take the tyranny hit for imprisoning him or banishing him (not to mention I could never get a very high chance to imprison)

So, I decided to murder him back. Because of the wake of bodies he had left, I found numerous willing allies and quickly had a plot power of 292%. Consider him worm fodder, right?

WRONG. After about 15 failed attempts, I abandoned all hope and just waited for him to die, which he eventualy did (of natural causes) at the age of 67. At some point late in his life, he converted from Tengri to Reformed Suomenusko.

I really need to find an event viewer utility so I can figure out just how many people he had killed. I figure there are all sorts of folk tales in my realm now about Tuk Khazbek, and that he's become a sort of boogeyman to frighten small children.

[Loud Whispers]

Do you hear young ones? TUK KHAZBEK COMES FOR YOU!

[PanH]

He doesn't even have good intrigue stats. Plus, he's probably a foreigner to everyone in your court, so opinion malus.

[Rakonas]

So with seduction focus there's inadvertently the best succession law ever. Never marry, just impregnate everyone, especially people with the right traits, and then legitimize whatever son is capable enough. Get like 40 children and choose one.

This sounds (a) a genius idea and (b) the perfect basis for a long-lasting imperial society! 

Problem is you don't get the bonus from having a wife. You'd probably have better stats by having a meh heir and a good wife (that you can choose) than a good heir alone.

Wife stats don't count for everything, though. The wife added stats count for most the rulership effects, but not events and some other stuff.

[Sheb]

But your courtiers needs your approval to get married right? So you could just invite high-stat women to your court, and keep them there until they turn 50 before marrying them. Alternatively, marry them off to some low-intrigue courtier.