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[Karlito]

Have you ever come to the awful realization that you are probably sleeping with your daughter?  Man this game is messed up sometimes. 

She's betrothed to your son too?

[umiman]

Yeah, I've had my characters do that a lot. However, the only time I got the incest trait was when one of my normal daughters had an affair with someone and got a bastard kid. I was given the choice of naming the kid as mine and not my daughter's which is what I did.

When I did that, the kid got the incest trait.

[Satarus]

Have you ever come to the awful realization that you are probably sleeping with your daughter?  Man this game is messed up sometimes. 

She's betrothed to your son too?

It just keeps getting worse.  So much winsest! 

[pisskop]

I decided to try a mod . . . !

And then decided to try to mod the mod.  That was fun.  I think I have the basics of modding down.

Is there a way to make an entire culture-group hate you more for DoWing with Shattered World's cultural suppression war?

[Karkov]

I keep having troubles with downloading mods on Steam, stupid thing will occasionally download them but it downloads a corrupted WinRAR file instead of the mod itself.  Also, recently, mods that were working fine have been crashing my game.  Might just be a thing because of the new update, but I dunno what's going on.

[pisskop]

I would like to lodge a complaint:

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goddamnit.  This is directly after a war for the county of Opole with encompassed 2 civil wars (1 which was successful and fragmented 5 counties), a war for Zemale, a war for Gniezo, a war for Krakow, and a war for memel.  My father died of stress at the age of 72!  He got stressed halfway through the wars and now this?  Because some stupid Lollard said 'lolol Ima take Rome by force!'  How did they decide Poland was the best place to crusade?!!  Its not Christian, not one dang county!

Anywho surprisingly enough I am winning.  The holy orders havent formed yet, and there is only one or two actual kings on the map.


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Its a full century before the crusades are supposed to happen!  [sigh]

[EnigmaticHat]

I assume you're using a shattered world mod?

Well anyway, the game has pre-set weights for the Pope calling Crusades.  I believe the general priorities are: land held by Christians in the default start date, then land that was Crusaded for in RL (AKA the holy land), then any other place held by non-Christians.

It doesn't have anything to do with the religious leanings of the population, which makes sense because the historical crusades were started to protect pilgrims, not locals IRRC.

[UristMcDwarf]

Does anyone as bad as me want to play multiplayer?

[Satarus]

Crusades aren't bad.  Just go siege down Rome.  As soon as the county is completely occupied, you should have enough war score.

[a1s]

Crusades aren't bad.  Just go siege down Rome.  As soon as the county is completely occupied, you should have enough war score.

That is just crazy enough to work.

[Satarus]

Crusades aren't bad.  Just go siege down Rome.  As soon as the county is completely occupied, you should have enough war score.

That is just crazy enough to work.

Now if you're up against a large and powerful Papal States, that is less effective. Still, since the Pope is the war leader, occupying his holdings is worth a lot of war score. Even if it isn't feasible to completely occupy the Papal States, you can still probably get a white peace if you get all his personal holdings.

Now Jihads, those are scary.  Caliphs tend to get large realms with their whole "subjugate muslim CB" that lets him take whole de jure kingdoms from his brethren.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Crusades are nice when you want the free gold from Rome and to capture the pope for more free gold.

[Satarus]

Crusades are nice when you want the free gold from Rome and to capture the pope for more free gold.

Just play Norse and you can do that every time the looted tag comes off the holdings 

[pisskop]

Yea, Im confused how the Baltic 'raid friendly territory for loot' works.  Do I toggle it and walk over to my vassals' land?  Ive never gotten it to work, and it would be nice to have a standing army pillage annoyingly strong vassals.

[Satarus]

Raiding works this way.  Raise up your levy/retinue (mercs can't raid) and flag them as raiders while they are inside your realm.  Then move them to an adjacent territory that is of a different religion and outside your realm.  It just has to be different.  Romuva can raid Tengri and vice versa. While techincally you can raid non-adjecant, you don't get any money for it.  Nords get the added bonus of being able to use boats to act as an adjacent territory, but they store a limited amount of money you don't get till they dock in your realm.

Edit: It's just the money you don't get for non-adjacency.  You still get the 1% MA for looting a temple and can still get prisoners. It's useful if you want to wage a proxy war or soften a target up before declaring war (and possibly calling in allies).